ronald hampton ronald to sunny of this data surprise you who know what i was amazed about was to the extent to talk about. some of the crimes are crimes of opportunity so people are going to participate in consequence if if you can go to the still of you if you're not going out if you. how slow and extended did you write some of those. things are going to we're going to see a decrease but police have never in my opinion been in in a developed in a way. homicide how much as a thing that happened added out of that out of the out of the view and out of the contact the police so without days that as a society we can do some town to to address some of the systemic issues of us happen but i wasn't surprised that homicides and to some degree some violent crime thank rob were not saints when up because of the stress that existed not started since this cult. been in existence yeah it's a good point cause and effect with stress and nobody's been hit harder by this virus than the big city police departments officers are overworked some are quarantined some have died as ranks have been depleted some departments have been deemphasizing traffic violations and misdemeanors good idea bad idea and if arrests are down does that make this data suspect. well known not necessarily at the data suspect but i agreed police departments have been sort of d f a south and certain danger lab rat on rail and conduct traffic stops for example that really doesn't do anything but so times aggravate certain communities and certain residents and look it used in gays things are slow now so i don't notice dead in this city and one in d.c. also the signal on the sat will they're paying more to it's a certain thing and they're in the neighborhood sittin round residential stuff i think that's why i asked because while grad of rain in doing that kind of thing that would. it's not going to have an impact on crime the whole idea of the police have been the presence cause or did you see did you see people who since some of them did not get called walk in the neighborhood when i think that's a good idea that's present but just riding on ramp. for example conducting traffic stops isn't going to put dunes in a thing and it's going to create more stress. as various states and jurisdictions have decriminalized or legalized we need. the arrests there have been deemphasized and there in d.c. about a year ago mayor bowzer said she didn't want any more cussed odio possession arrests has that backfired in any way. no i don't think so i don't know i was. i was involved little organization back in when the d. korean built with pace and there were good they didn't decrypt be alike. marijuana could dismember marijuana couldn't be probable cause for arrest we saw that we saw our police officers abused the net process so the elimination of of that was something that has been positive this whole idea of how much you have been whether or not you for have a personal use or distribution has always been a subject matter for police in the public but to hold our dear de crim is now not only something that that's happening here is happening across the country so there's going to be less and less and less focus on the whole idea of murder one and in. in the context of it being criminal to people just utilizing marijuana for recreation it's for medical purposes and i happen to agree with that i mean i don't use him but i don't i don't think we are to be locking up people having one step or 2 marijuana sticks that just doesn't make sense and is not a good use of police or. f we are speaking with long time a d.c. metropolitan police officer now a criminal justice lecturer ronald hampton millions are unemployed now and financially desperate and we're reading about stepped up support degas and convenience stores and gas station ronald what is your advice for saying staying safe when we are out and about. well who allan about i think we need a bit set a task of randomness we need to be as we are walking doing what it is that we do what we need to be paying attention to where we are where one who is behind us who is in front of us we also need to be. less of a target if we go shopping we need to take and put out a shopping gift in our trunk rather didn't put it in the car because people are walking around looking in cost testing condos alternately we need to make sure that we are making last even more of a target in your break because of the times and say instead of one on stress that individuals and families of children have a result of cold but then we're going to seem people who are victims of been victimized by the stress and other things that are happening y