medicaid five times so we need to be on the side of the american people. >> we had ronald regan's son on and had a similar conversation with him. so you're all too familiar with wrangling votes and so on. moderate senators like susan cob want to proceed slowly while conservatives like ted cruz want a full repeal, will more time help or will it hurt? >> well, i think the smart thing to do with what mitch mcconnell did was to pull the bill. you mentioned votes losing on the floor. i can tell you from my experience there's nothing nor d disterous or embarrassing. embarrassing yourself today slightly is a whole lot better than a total failure, which is what losing a bill on the floor would be. and as republicans continue to be divided whether you're talking about collins or cruz are on the house of representatives where they continue to have serious divides, stepping back and trying to find the better process forward is what's going to be good for mitch mcconnell and other republicans going forward. >> i want you to take a look at this. flanking president trump in the health care meeting.

medicaid five times so we need to be on the side of the american people. >> we had ronald regan's sonn who made a similar comment. so you're all too familiar with wrangling votes and so on. moderate senators like susan cob want to proceed slowly while cruz want a full repeal. will more time help or hurt? >> i think the smart thing to do is pull the bill. you mentioned talking about votes losing on the floor. from my experiences there's nothing more disastrous, embarrassing to lose the vote on the floor. pull the bill, take that immediate loss and try to come up with something better while you're working with your members to come up with the solution. embarrassing yourself today slightly is a whoel lot better than a total failure which is what losing a bill on the floor would be and as republicans continue oo too be divides whether it's cruz or in the house of orepresentatives, stepping back and trying to find the better process forward is what's going to be best for republicans mover forward. >> i want you to take a look at this because it's the image of senator lisa murkowski flankin

uss carl vinson and uss ronald regan. >>> in japan the parliament approved historic low, the prime minister to become the first japanese monarch to abdicate a throne in 500 years. passing to his oldest son the crown prince. also women who mary commoners do not lose their imperial status. >>> pelosi says the congressional hearings are allowing the people to find out the truth what russians have politically, personally or financially on president trump. >> well i think we saw confirmation con first indirect i don't remember comey's detailing the frightening reality of president trump's pattern of contempt for justice, his pattern of concerted and in excusable efforts to shut down the fbi's investigation of his cronies ties to russia, and all of that disgraces the office of president. the president may not -- >> pelosi says the integrity and security of democracy is at stake right now, outside independent commission should be formed to help protect it. >>> the leader of an antiabortion group is seeking to disqualify a judge preventing him from releasing videos. claimed u.s. district judge has

it's what ronald regan did.d allow a congress inclined to investigate to get somewhere. >> and he was white house councils, not special counsel. i want to ask you this, robert. donald trump's friend, the president's friend suggested that mueller has a conflict of interest. he says it's unethical mueller and trump had a private conversation potentially about the russia investigation because the next day he became the man leading the investigation. does he have a point there? >> i think that's a bit far fetched in terms of ultimately assuming a position within the justice department as special counsel but with obviously a very different mission than would be the case if he were the fbi director. it speaks well of the fact mr. mueller carries bipartisan reputation for integrity. and i think we ought to leave well enough alone. criticisms about who he's hiring and whether or not they're republicans or democrats. seems to be the flavor of the month in washington but it really does a great disservice to the investigat

i guess it was the biggest electoral college win since ronald regan.r rate in our country is the highest it's been in 47 years, right? did you know that? china will be allowed to build hundreds of additional coal plants. so we cannot build the plants but they can according to this agreement. >> the piece in "the new york times" yesterday concludes that the president, quote, is trying to create an atmosphere in which reality is irrelevant. i am so into that. i'm joined by the "hardball" roundtable. pa paul, you're first. i think they've got something there. i think the supporters of trump, somewhere between 35 and 40% who stayed with him hell and high water don't give a damn, a rat's ass. >> they didn't vote for the guy with the right facts, they voted for the right mood. if you got the mood right, who cares if the facts are over all -- >> he shoots facts on fifth avenue to use his old reference. he shoots facts dead. sabrina. >> the greatest challenge with this is people becoming numb to the president not telling the truth. this is the highest office i

ronald reagan was. >> once there was a -- meeting. don regan, he was a catastrophe as chief of staff but i like him, he said, the president wants you to lineup on gorbachev. he said, like hell he does come and you want us to. the question was, in 1989, why didn't you do it? he said, i think this fellow gorbachev is different from the others. think he is serious about getting out of afghanistan. this had not been in the "washington post." i had not heard anybody speculate that gorbachev wanted to get out of afghanistan. down,echwriters locked what do you do when ronald reagan goes soft on communism? later, they had a little speaking gig going and mike and i are friends said he had me help tell the questions and services on the stage in sacramento, california. gorbachev,n is, mr. 1953, the soviets moved to put down east germany, in 1958 they ague, and in 89 they did not, why didn't they? said, you must understand your father and i shared christian morality. christian morality. and then gorbachev said, when i was growing up my grandfather was a bi

ronald reagan was. >> we had a speech writers meeting with don regan. said, toys, the president wants you to lighten up on gorbachev. we said you want us to, and he shrugged. -- he just gorbachev said through a longtime translator, still translating. mike reagan and mikael gorbachev had a little speaking gig going in the 1990's. mike and i were friends, so he had me help him with questions. this was on the stage in sacramento, california. is, in 1953 the soviets move in to put down the east germans, and i 68 the move into prague in a 19 89, you didn't. why not? gorbachev said through a longtime translator, still translating. gorbachev said, michael -- you must understand, your father and i shared christian morality. gorbachev said, when i was growing up, my grandfather was a big communist in our town, but grandmother was always a believer. we had a communist meeting, and up would go pictures of stalin. as soon as the communist left -- they would put michael and saint injured. [laughter] he went on. he said my grandmother lifted up that lived with us as

ronald reaganoned as a model of failure. arguably, a successful treasury secretary. you cannot be imperial as chief of staff. that was regan'snfall. you have to be like a sports manager. you have tremendous talent in the white house and you have to be able to build a team that is going to be cohesive and work toether, as opposed operating by dictate. i think that is what he tried to do. it broke down the hall at the national security adviser. he finally stepped in and solved the problem. >> he like to the chief part of the title a lot. i think all of us would agree that a really effective chief is also going to be really good at enabling people to do their jobs. the chief does not try to do it all himself in the same way the president can't, so cannot the chief. the chief has to identify people he or she, that time will come, when we have a woman chief of team that youe know and have confidence in, that you trust, and enable them to do their jobs. charlie: back to the power thing, one thing it seems to me gives the chief of staff a lot of power is often, you have the last word with the president. you are the last sound in hi