so brendon, i want to read to you what ronna mcdaniel had to say according to politico. quote, i think they all want to be on the debate stage. i think president trump would like to be on the debate stage. that's what he likes to do, and i expect they will all be there. really? she cannot be that naive about this man that she has spent the last for five years working with, and see how it operates, tear point that somehow is going to come around and be a team player. >> you need a debate stage if you need attention, if you want people area. donald trump is never had people paying attention to him, and nor is he gonna see himself as needing to debate with them. he's running as the incumbent. this is his party, and frankly he has hijacked the party. that's why they're all afraid of him. they know that there are tens of millions of people who are die hard for him. if you offend them, they may not show up in november, even if he's not the nominee, and that's ultimately the cause of death in a general election. he is -- i will give ronna mcdaniel's, i don't know if there's a g

so, the leverage that ronna mcdaniel has here is somewhat limited. i think what this does, though -- what she can do, is control the conversation at this point. and this will come up in the debates. it will be a talking point in the campaign's. and i think her hope is that, over time, republican voters begin to internalize this message. they really do need to find a way to like all parts of their party or they are just going to lose to the democrats. >> pardon me for minimizing the importance of larry hogan to the republican party. >> yeah. >> but it is kind of charming that it's even a concern, what chris sununu and larry hogan want to do, whether or not they want to endorse former president trump. it feels like the existential danger of the party here is that job. because, if you look at the polling, i think it's like -- polling among republican voters, should trump run as an independent in 2024 if he doesn't win the gop nomination? 27% of the party says yes. that would effectively and the republican party's prospects of the national governing coal

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ronna mcdaniel has one responsibility. the chairman of the republican national committee and to help do everything she can to carry the republican ticket to victory in 2024. she is doing her job. >> dana: all right. >> bill: i sense some headlines from this story forth coming. >> dana: love having your fellow political junkie on with us. great to see you. >> thank you. >> dana: a major fends nall bust at the border. a single vehicle packed with enough doses to kill 50 million americans. latest in the string of escalating encounters. >> bill: a city in oklahoma ravaged by a tornado. we'll take you inside the recovery effort that is happening today. >> dana: government watchdog issuing a scathing report on america's withdrawal from afghanistan accusing the white house of poor planning and logistical laziness. will the president be held accountable? >> president biden: i do not regret my decision to end of america's war fight in afghanistan and maintain a laser focus on the counter terrorism mission there and other parts of t

you don't care about ronna mcdaniel or harmeet dillon. you are very observant.this race because of one man, my pillow ceo and mary poppins' troubled uncle, mike lindell. in the run-up to friday's vote, lindell claimed he called every member of the rnc and bragged "sometimes i talk for three to four hours to one person. i do most of the talking. occasionally they'll ask a question like, 911, what's your emergency?" so, lindell. lindell put in the effort and in the end, he was rewarded with four votes. four. really? not 4%? four. that actually seems a bit high. jim, can we see who voted for lindell? that checks out. are they related to that burger guy? looks like a burger. something in the eyes. there is news from the land down under because a tiny radioactive capsule has been lost in australia, or as it was reported down in australia, crikey! thank you. i want to thank murray bartlett for being here today. hello, murray. to raise public awareness, this image of the tiny, tiny capsule has been released. no. nothing that important should be that small. did airpods

but he claims ronna mcdaniel, who did win, asked him to spearhead an elite unit of eection conspiracyestigators. >> one of the things i want to say, we need to hold the rnc accountable. she did say i will work with mike lindel. i can't wait the work with mike lindel. when you work with me, it's election crime, not a weak word like election integrity, it's called election crime. we're going to talk later in the week. we're setting up the election crime unit, steve. so everybody stay tuned, it's going to be big. >> jimmy: right. why do i have the feeling this will be headquartered in the back of a van in mankato, minnesota? [ laugher ] mike lindell's election crime unit sounds like it would be a great prime-time show for nbc. ♪ dun dun ♪ >> just forget about the evidence. why, what are you hiding? hey, will you guys finally look at this evidence? would you get a cyber guy? i'm going to show you inside a dominion machine, everybody. right there keep going down, stop. "inside the machines." this is realtime crime, you can't deny it. i don't know if you can see this, but there's stars and

just this morning, republican national committee chair, ronna mcdaniel, through a new program at trump three loyalty pledge. she said all candidates wishing to take part in the republican party's first debate must promise to support the eventual 2024 nominee. that's been used to trump who said earlier this month of his potential support would quote, depend on the nominee. it almost seems like that pledges designed to knock trump, and only trump. we know the 2024 election is ages from now. but what is happening at this point could set the stage for the rest of the primary cycle. here is what we are seeing tonight. democrats are coalescing around president biden at the time that he needs it most, republicans are fleeing from trump at the worst possible time for the ex president. earlier i spoke with democratic congresswoman, but really of california about the presidential race, her own 2024 race for the u. s. senate and more. congresswoman lee, thank you so much for joining us today. let's start with president biden for a moment. after racking up a series of political winds, the presiden

>> is a clear answer to that question instead of obsessing over the question of the cool cop ronna mcdaniel were out of is whether the understanding what and the why optimistic leaders can rise tothe occasion a start waking up . >> steve: what's so interesting about that is if you go back not just the last few years but decades, politicalconversations useto the into specific issues . what you're talking about there is foundational stuff . okay it's such carry on how far things have slept stuff needs to be said someone to fight for it. >> and is most people watching athome. with these ideas . they probably suspect their neighbors i agree with these ideas can be sure you are not allowed to open but creation opening for years to say is over proverbial client part out loud, the idea that we're out by a set of ideastogether a polygon of the . we can provide thoseideals today and guess what that's what then our bankruptcy . our diversity is not our strength. our accuracy is only beautiful if there's something greater that binds us in my mind as a first-generation american is basically ideas last-

>> you've got to get the message right, and the way ron mcdaniel -- ronna mcdaniel approached this, the debates will be done differently this year, that will make a difference long-term, but these races are always so long. a year from now, we will start figuring this out. ashley: we like it being long, there's lots going on and i can't wait to. i know you are the same. you are out of congress but love what is going on every day. thanks for being here this morning. let's get back to the cpi report, inflation jumped 6.4% in the last 12 months. that is slightly harder than anticipated. scott shelladdy. this shows you this is not easy. this is sticky or stubborn, but it is difficult to get this under control. >> it will continue to be the case. all these things are up between 8% to 12%. we will struggle and on top of that, bring down labor costs and that will be one of the bigger ones that will be hard so that is why you have the fed, we are going to have to raise the unemployment rate, put businesses out of business so they can shed those employees and rehire them later. the labor componen

. >> ronna mcdaniel also said, david, that ultimately the candidates on the stage need to respect the the people when it comes to the republican primary process. what about the will of the people, the will of the people that elected joe biden? why should republican voters' will of the people matter, but the general american people not? >> jake, i think that's why, as you alluded to, asa hutchinson and others are running. they don't want to sign a pledge that they're not going to want to support either. the reason they're running is because they believe former president trump isn't suited to hold the office any further. they don't want to be forced into supporting somebody they don't want to. it's a real quandary. i'm not sure the rnc gets anything by raising it. >> i'd like a pledge that whoever wins the nomination respects the will of the people in the general election, not just the primary process. i guess that's a bridge too far. kerstin, florida governor ron desantis is on the short list of potential 2024 candidates invited to a major donor retreat by the club for growth. not on t

he was defeated bigly by the incumbent ronna mcdaniel, even though according to a rasmussen poll, 30%ican voters wanted him to run the republican fundraising effort. and 100% of democrats wanted him to run the republican fundraising effort. so, this is tough news for mike. but things are about to get better! as you may know, mike has repeatedly asked to come on our show, and i have repeatedly invited him to appear on the show, under one condition, and the condition is that he lets me interview him from inside a claw machine. you know those machines they have at the arcade? the claw comes down? well, i said, if you get in one of those, i'll do the interview. and good news, it looks like it's happening tomorrow night. >> this is the one stipulation i said. i don't mind getting inside of a claw game, okay. in fact, back in the day, the claw thing, everybody probably thought hey, it would be cool to be inside of a claw game, right? who has probably done that? this will be kind of interesting for me, something i haven't done. >> jimmy: all right, yeah. dude, it will be a new experience. an

i asked ronna mcdaniel to litigate that. of course she wouldn't because we do see that coming down the pike as one of the key questions. >> you see it coming down the pike. the club for growth is one of the conservative groups calling people together, essentially cattle calls. they bring donors in and potential candidates. the guest list includes mike pence, nikki haley, mike pompeo, senator tim scott. again, you have this debate. ronald reagan's republican party to your point was keep the government out as much as possible, free market. don't tell the private business what to do, let them do their thing and have basic regulation. we're going to have a fascinating debate over desantis who a lot of trump voters will like that. use your power to punish your enemies or punish those who cross you, but it's not free market conservatism. >> notice who was left off that list, who was donald trump. he was not invited to this confab so it does show you how there are many republicans that want to keep trump's ideals but move on from t

. >> bret: ronna mcdaniel the rnc there as we get really to go in earnest the campaign of 2024.esantis moves towards the g.o.p. presidential bid on his own terms. while he has begun to expand his profile. desantis has done far less than most of the early 2024 class to connect with primary voters and would be allies in key states. he has long avoided gatherings of governors and g.o.p. officials who privately condemn his approach as arrogant he has never set foot in iowa. we are back with the panel. ben, you don't have to set foot in iowa by this point is he a governor, he has a legislative session until june; however, this seems like the campaign before the campaign, as this book roll-out happens and interviews a go go? >> i think that book roll-out is going to be very interesting and a lot of had more people will be paying attention to it, perhaps, than you typically would see from a governor at this stage because he has been so much focused on his own stage as opposed to engage in activity we have seen some candidates typically. the question about these two now florida men is r

. >>> also this morning, rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniel predicts donald trump will pledge to support the 2024 gop nominee. >> yeah, no. >> we'll see you how the former president's campaign is responding to that. >>> and the case for a primary challenge to joe biden. markibovich joins us. >>> and the abu dhabi summit is kicking off next week. we're going to mark international women's day with an all-star panel of guest speakers, including hillary clinton, gloria steinem, jessica alba, ayesha curry, catherine o'hara, misty copeland, billie jean king, and the first lady of ukraine, olena zelenska. it is part of the mission to gather generations of women from the "forbes" 30 under 30 and the 50 over 50 lists to forge new bonds, collaborate and innovate as leaders. go to knowyourvalue.com for more information. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. i'm your glitchy wi-fi which means your smart home isn't so smart. sprinkler on. and now i'm sending mixed signals... to your garage. but, if you haven't bundled your home and auto, unpacking this isn't going to be too much fun. so get

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so much depends on if he follows what the chair of the rnc, ronna mcdaniels says they should do, support the nominee, it's possible that they may not do that. there's nothing in his past that tells us he's going to take a backseat, as he loses this nomination, that is going to tell us a lot more about whoever comes out of the primary is going to be able to take on joe biden, and get support outside of the republican electorate to win a general election. >> talk about how far we have come in the past few years. it reminded me of a quainter time in 2015 when i first interviewed donald trump, what are you going to do if you piss off other leaders and he was so appalled that i used the term piss off, and we watch what happens after that, the words that came out of his mouth. anyway, guys, ali vitale, eugene daniels, remember when. thank you very much. >>> and turning now to walterboro, south carolina, where alec murdaugh's brother has taken the stand. last week we saw murdaugh testify himself in his own defense. today the judge ruled jurors will get a chance to see the crime scene for themse

but we should note that when republican national committee chair ronna mcdaniel, when it was releasedott, she praised it. she said, quote, republicans like senator rick scott have real solutions to put us back on track. republicans are offering a clear plan to protect and reinvigorate the america we know and love. did none of these people read the plan? >> well, mitch mcconnell read it. to be fair, from the very beginning mcconnell was like this is going in the trash can. he really had no interest in this plan. that's part of the reason for the bad blood between these two men. he really dismissed it out of hand and knew how damaging it would be before the midterms. this is part two of a strategy -- well, i guess you could call it a strategy on rick scott's part to put out a plan that he thought was great. the democrats immediately seized on and ran on. they ran on this in 2022 as well as the last midterm cycle and found it to be a very effective argument to redirect the american public toward something that they know americans really care about, which is the issue of entitlements. i t

for her first interview since she was re-elected chair of the republican national committee is ronna mcdaniel much. congratulations. fourth term? >> thank you, fourth term. good to be with you. it was a tougher than expected re-election campaign and race. it exposed pretty deep divisions in your party. what lessons did you take away? >> you know, i ran on a unity platform and about bringing the party together, and we can't be so vicious and vitriolic with each other that we don't want to support each other in the end, and i chose to run that way. in the end i won 2-1, and i am working to bring the community together and i think this is a symbol of our party. we can't be attacking each other so much, we have to beat the democrats and we have to beat joe biden in 2024 and we might have divisive parties and differences of opinion, but in the end we have to settle those to win big picture which is governing our country and doing the right thing by the american people. >> on that note, right before you were re-elected the florida governor ron desantis praised your opponent, and he called for new b

rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniels, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and house speaker kevin mccarthy are also sitting out this year. this year's conference comes as cpac's chair faces a lawsuit that alleges he fondled a male aide to then senate candidate herschel walker back in october. his lawyer says he denies those allegations. none of the politicians that have said they are not attending have cited the allegations as the reason for their absence. however, several republicans who spoke to nbc news anonymously have said the allegations are indeed a factor in the broader movement away from the annual conference. the event, which in years past, was one of the biggest for conservatives, will feature speeches from former president donald trump, 2024 candidate nikki haley, congresswoman marjorie taylor greene, and several others. however, the new place to be for potential 2024 presidential candidates appears to be the club for growth donor retreat. the group's expecting to have a major line-up of gop star power at its gathering this week. florida governor ron desantis and former vice pr

ronna mcdaniels, mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy are sitting out as well.ays he denies the allegations. none of the politicians that said they are not attending have cited schlapp's allegations for why they're not attending. the event which in years past was one of the biggest events for conservatives will feature speeches from former president trump, 2024 candidate nikki haley, congresswoman marjorie taylor greene and others. what do you think, joe? >> i think it's early. >> it is early. >> you corrected yourself. there was no allegations about matt and herschel walker. it was an aid to herschel walker, not an aid at herschel walker. >> it is early. i apologize. >> no, no, no. it is early. this is fascinating because this is where reagan would always go. this is where every sort of conservative star used to go. then at some point it became obvious that it was -- it was going far afield. you would have -- it became libertarian gathering, not republican or conservative. that's when you had ron paul and rand paul winning every presidential straw poll there. i

charlie kirk just did an interview about three weeks ago as he tried to unseat rnc chair ronna mcdanielrelationship with ron. charlie wants to be next to the new shiny thing on the block. like so many others, there would be no charlie kirk without donald trump. this is a question of not obviously where the power structure is, but also if donald trump potentially loses, you lose club for growth, you lose the koch brothers. you start to have even sarah huckabee sanders in her state of the union suggest that the republicans have a new generation of leaders. and now you have charlie kirk saying he still supports trump publicly in 2024. there's questions though of if you're losing the likes of charlie kirk, who does donald trump have around him next? >> if turning point usa isn't maga, what is maga? their whole rise a donald trump. donald trump propelled the organization. he propelled charlie kirk. and charlie endorsed him way early too. how would he be able to go back on that endorsement? >> this is the issue republicans are going to be facing. charlie tells us in a statement that he is sti