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something out like to say directly and publicly with admiration for your life story is that a lot of the ronson that have been mentioned some have been writing and some have yet to come. judge, i hope you understand the difference between petitioning once government and having a say in electoral process and voting for people that if you don't like you can get rid of and the difference of society being changed by nine unelected people who have a lifetime appointment. do understand the difference and how those two systems work? >> absolutely sarah i understand the constitution. >> and the one thing i can tell you and is probably be the last time i get to talk in this fashion. i hope to have a chance to get to know you better and we will see what your future holds but i think it's going to be pretty bright. at the bottom line is one of the problems of the court has now is mr. ricci has a story to tell. there are all kinds of stories to tell in this country and the court has in the opinion of many of us gone into the business of societal change not based on the plain language of the constitution, b