. >> let's go live now to moscow and talk to our kroepbt correspond e there rare i rory challe end with have john kerry and joed by an driving in kiev and the defense ministers meeting in brussels among them chuck hagel, of course. >> reporter: yeah, we are reaching a turning point aren't we hear, martin. it's a situation where what was previously something of a regional skirmish, now looks like it's in danger of escalateing in to a much more serious, much more broad scale conflict it. started really recently at the beginning of this year. the beginning of 2015 when the separatists in east turn ukraine launched a serious offensive beginning with mariupol but also donetsk. now, the west is having to rethink and recalculate how it handles this, thousand deals with ukraine and how it deals with russia as well. so we have a situation where kerry is considering now the supply of lethal weapons to the ukrainian army. petro poroshenko has been asking for this for quite sometime in september of last year, he went to the united states and in front of congress said, look, we thank you for the bla