over 200 paces in the whole report and joining us now is rosa hodgkin who is a resilience expert in thethink in government affected the pandemic, what do you make of what baroness hallett has said? i make of what baroness hallett has said? ~ ., make of what baroness hallett has said? ~' . . said? i think in general that it really chimes _ said? i think in general that it really chimes with _ said? i think in general that it really chimes with what - said? i think in general that it really chimes with what our i said? i think in general that it - really chimes with what our research has shown. in terms of the issues that she has identified and also some of the solution is that she has proposed. particularly i was interested proposing in an independent advisory body and that is something that we had suggested. partly to deal with the kind of lack of external scrutiny of planning, so, one thing that we saw in the lead up to the pandemic is there was not really enough focus on the plans that were in place and whether they were ready for this kind of event. before it happened. you tend to ge