i interviewed rosalynn carter and she told me that she trusted them completely.elt like she never had to hide anything. >> one of the things that is most compelling is that these people do see the humanity of these presidents and first ladies in a way that no one else really does. there is a level of intimacy that none of the top aides have could talk about the stories you have about richard nixon. you have a couple of incredible antidotes. >> specifically one story about him after he announced his resignation from the oval office, there were only a small handful of people allowed into the room. one was the head electrician grade i interviewed him. he told me that after this announcement, president nixon walked out onto the colonnade along the rose garden to go back to his office in the basement of the white house. he heard footsteps behind him. he stepped aside to let president nixon go around him. president nixon said, what with me, bill. they walked for a couple of minutes. bill said you did the best you could. president nixon said that he wished a lot of peop

i guess for purposes of brevity in my paper, i compared to rosalynn carter, she's very different but i do agree with you on a number of -- remember shows the whole campaign to say no to drugs. she gets very involved in the. i think she was takes on a very big role when president reagan is shot. we realized how much she is probably setting, she's one of the country. i do agree with you, or flavor did not come out in the paper. i guess i was working there just to rosalynn carter, but yes, i think as determined on a fictitious example she's all bit of both. she does have a politically active role, i think different than hillary clinton but she definitely initially comes in and is going to purchase a tea set, it's $200000, and the data she goes out to purchase that come it comes out and immediate that the school lunch programs are going the money is being decreased. so i think that i don't disagree with you. i think she kind of takes on all bit more of a political role later on especially when president reagan is shot. >> can i add just a little bit of commentary to that is will and and

rosalynn carter set i've learned that i influence.could just look at the program and to get attention, and i have a responsibility to do that. know what the confidant or advisor to the president is has uniquely invested or devoted into their spouses success. we heard all a bit about the figures, martha washington had the burden of the setting precedent to abigail adams had trouble curtailing her opinions. she wanted to express her views and we know that patricia mention the thousands of letters, the rich history of conversation and dialogue between her and john adams. she was so profoundly devoted to the formation of our new nation. she was courageous. she endured such a long separation from her husband. she sacrificed a lot. she was also so politically astute. she knew the fragility of the wind of john adams as president, having won only by three votes. dolly madison single-handedly set the model for the rule of first lady that would go unchallenged until the 20th century. most of us know her as the best social hostess in washington

rosalynn carter said, i have learned i have influence. i have a responsibility. no other confidant or advisor to the president is as uniquely invested or devoted to their spouse's success. we have learned about historical fixtures -- figures. abigail adams had trouble curtailing her opinions. she wanted to express her views. we know thousands of letters, the rich history of conversation and dialogue between her and john adams. she was so profoundly devoted to the formation of our new nation. she and do word -- endured long separations from her husband. she knew the fragility of the win of john adams as president having won by three votes. dolly madison set the model for the role of first lady that would go unchallenged into the 20th century. most of us know her as the best social hostess in washington. what her husband valued was her political acumen. the ability to bring people together. using her strength and knowledge as a hostess. we talked about sarah polk. caroline courson is another -- caroline harrison is another first lady we know little about. when she

rosalynn carter said, i have learned i have influence. i have a responsibility. no other confidant or advisor to the president is as uniquely invested or devoted to their spouse's success. we have learned about historical figures. abigail adams had trouble curtailing her opinions. she wanted to express her views. we know thousands of letters the rich history of conversation and dialogue between her and john adams. she was so profoundly devoted to the formation of our new nation. she endured long separations from her husband. she knew the fragility of the win of john adams as president having won by three votes. dolly madison set the model for the role of first lady that would go unchallenged into the 20th century. most of us know her as the best social hostess in washington. what her husband valued was her political acumen. the ability to bring people together. using her strength and knowledge as a hostess. we talked about sarah polk. caroline harrison is another first lady we know little about. when she served, the late 1800s, she teamed up with other progressiv

and the importance of the diplomatic role, it is really the policy work and we have to thank rosalynn carter for being the first first lady to establish the role of policy director or projects director in the office of the first lady. >> do you remember how laura bush came upon the initiative for afghan women? >> sure. you know, laura bush came into the white house in 2001, and she had already been a little bit typecast as the shy, retiring librarian, teacher and, you know, when she was asked famously who are you going to be barbara bush or hillary clinton, and she said well i think i know laura bush pretty well and i think i'm going to be here. she was astute and confident in who she was, confident in their relationship as husband and wife and the partnership they had had through their life, in public life and private life, and they came into the white house and she was going to take her interests from texas to washington, which was establishing first and foremost the national book festival which is now continuing in it's 12th or 13th year, and, you know, they had had -- she had an interest

to former president jimmy carter and his rife rosalynn.irit volunteers soon followed harold's lead and an informal group called "harold's group" formed. harold's life has been an example of service, because he never boasts about his pliv accomplishments i've had to learn about him about the time i served on the "uss intrepid" or that time i built the church i belong to. we love harold because he is the type of person with awe aspire to be. every bit of energy and skill he has he has shared to benefit others. he hasn't wasted a day. >> now you know why we picked harold. here with us now. harold and becky sanders. happy birthday a little late. you turn 91 the other day. right? >> right. >> how are you feeling? >> a little old. >> harold you're the new middle age! >> harold, what do you love about habitat for humanity? >> gives me something to do and helping somebody. >> yeah. >> gives you purpose to get up in the morning right? you know you're -- >> every day. >> and beck you, what's so great about your letter is that he is as you described.