>> rose: welcome to our program. we continue this evening with our summer recess composite focusing this time on symphonic and operatic music and beginning with the conductor valery garg yef. >> you know what you want to hear. you do something and then you hear something. so there should be a very interesting process thathat you want to hear isn't as good as wt your wishes are maybe even better because good orchestras can do... >> rose: so you hear something in your head which is perfect and you're trying to reproduce that with an orchestra. >> yes. you cannot go behind orchestra and chorus. that's unacceptable. you lead. >> rose: we continue with sir simon rattle. >> i want to hear a story being told. i want to hear... i want to ar that if the violas play a phrase in a different way that the singer will hear that and rct. i want to ar different colors. i wa to hear the music shimmer. want it to be a secret when the note begins and ends. you want all kinds of things that are impossible together. and you want people t

>> rose: king abdlaul is the one. >> i respect... >> rose: and the arab league. >> i respect... >> rose: those are the two things they said. >> i respect the sentiment beyond that initiative. i'm not sure the arld world is that stable or unified these days. >> rose: ow so how has the arab spring changed your attitude about where israel is today and the difficulty of being israel in that neighborhood? >> i think we live in a very... in a convulsed area from the north africa right through pakistan and i think the ground is shifting because there's basically the challenge of modernity to societies that haven't modernized and there's deep frustration of hundreds of millions of people who see through 21st century technology the 20s... you know, the 20th century passed them by and they all demand their dignity. they want an end to corruption and they want to be enfranchised. >> rose: universal values is the word they now use. >> they would like it. the problem is they're going to be hard-pressedo get it. so you might very well have not the democrats win out but the militant islamists who will

>> as often as i can. >> rose: me too. >> i hope at least twice a year. >> rose: really. >> yea >> rose: in search of just change. >> yes because every time, my wife and i went to ef pre-- ery province but one and every time we got off the plane or train we can believe what we saw. going to new places and see what is changing and meet new friends and old friends. an interesting place. >> rose: they liked george bush, his foreign policy. >> true. >> rose: what did they like. >> mao had a maxism saying go with the republicans they are predictable. they feel the republicans will give them less of hard time. thdemocrats are more of a handful. bill clinton talking about the butcrs of beijing, the democrats give more a hard time on human rights and trade. >> rose: it's just that, human rights and trade. >> yes. with the republicans it's sort of a strategic link. on the other hand i think they recognize that essentially all american presidents have the same policy, which is disagrees but engaging with them. >> rose: are they optimistic about theiruture? >> i would say yes. i any compared with

our studios in new yo city, this is charlie rose. . >> rose: janet napolitano is here, the secretary of the department of homeland security. the agency was created in the aftermath of 9/11 ahead of the 10th anniversary, there is much reflection and questions including are we safer, is al qaeda weaker? how are today's threats more diffuse and different. i'm pleased to have secretary janet napolitano back at th table to talk about this. welcome. >> thank you. >> rose: where are we ten years later? are we safer? is al qaeda different? will another attack occur of a different nature? what do we know? >> well, i think overall we are safer and that the kind of plot and the kind of activity that occurred on 9/11 we would have many opportunities to stop now. better intelligence, better colation of intelligence. background checks on people in flight schools. hardening of cockpit doors on planes. hardening-- exactly, so you know layer after layer. so that kind of complex plot we have given ourselves and not given ourselves but we have many layers now that would protect us. on the other hand, c

captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: there is a heightened sense of crisis around europe, a range of corrective measures instituted over the summer appears to be failing. that has lead to growing fears about the impact on global economy. today, five major central banks acts in conjunction to pump dollars into t banking sysm. yestday, chinese premier wen jiabao said that his country willing to consider expanding its investment in europe. joing me here in the studio is ian bremmer, he is president of the eurasia group. from the "financial times" bureau in new york is gilli tett, she is the paper's u.s. managing editor. from washington, zanny minton beddoes, she is the economics editor at the "economist" magazine. i am pleased to have all of them here. i begin with gillian. tell me where you think we are with the rescue of greece and what you think it will possibilities are that in the end greece will default? >> i think one of the european bollsy makers put it beautifully which is that europe is at a fork in the r

(laughter) >> rose: okay. so, we'll take that moment because that's one of the reasons we wanted you here this evening. so the president calls you up and says listen, i've stated where i am but maybe i missed something. what did i snisz what would you say? >> i'd go back to what i said before. mr. president, the empirical evidence is overwhelming, we need entrepreneurs to create the jobs. there's a difficulty in terms of new firms starting to fall off in terms of the number of people they employ. they have to do some stuff which government can do at very little cost to help new firms encourage them. >> rose: do youhink the president gets that? >> my guess is he would. he understands the... he reads what... i think he does. i'm part of a start up america partrship that the president put together but i think problem in washington... charlie, the president spoke tonight about all business and every member on both sides, if you ask him about this question of entrepreneurship, this is my job you talked with him and

>> rose: welcome to our program. we begin this evening with a conversation that is almost as remarkable for the fact that it istaking place as for the content of the conversation. it is with aung san suu kyi, the burmese opposition leader. it was taped at last week's clinton global initiative, along with archbishop desmond tutu. >> and if the world wants to help burma, the world needs to know what is happening in burma, and this means that you don't get to know what's happening in pa place by looking at a newsper pa time to time. i think you really have to follow what is going on there and to think about the implications oevery sll change that you notice. change is not always for the better. and even if it it for the better it's not always sustained. so we need change in the right direction that is steady and stable and we would like the world to keep an eye on what's happening. >> rose: we continue with the burning question of the moment in american politics, will governor chris christie of new jersey run for the re

from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: we begin this evening with a conversation with someone you might know and admire but have nevereen in conversation. shes myanmar's oosition leader aung san u kyi. her non-violent campaign for democracy won her the nel peace prize in 1991. she was under house arrest for almost 15 of the last 21 years. she wareleased in november, 2010, but remains under clos government surveillance. i spoke to her last week at the 2011 clinton global initiative during skype. it was a conversation i began with desmond tutu, the archbishop from south africa, we were participating in the clinton global initiative introduced by president clinton who joined us later in the conversation. but here it is tap last week. it's my honor and a great pleasure and opportunity to go across oceans via satellite to talk to aung san suu kyi. i hope you can hear me. this is charlie rose sitting with archbishop tutu here in new york. and there you are. please join me here in new york in welcoming aung san suu kyi who is in myanmar. (applause) thank you very much. a

captning sponsed by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: this evening, president obama addressed a joint session of congress, he unveiled an ambitious strategy to create jobsnd prevent a second recession. he called upon congress congress to pass a bill immediately and without hesitation >> i am sending this congress a plan that you should pass right away. it's called the american jobs act. there should be nothing controversial about this piece of legislation. everything in here is the ki of proposal that's been suppord by both democrats and republicans, including many who sit here tonight. and everything in this bill will be paid for. everything. >> rose: the legislation which l include a variety of measures to boost job growth and stimulate the economy. >> more jobs for construction workers, teachers, veterans and long-term unemployed. it will provide... (applause) it will provide a tax break for companies who hireew workers and it will cut payroll taxes in half for every working american and every small business. it will provide a jolt t

rose: is it weeks? is it months? >> i think it's weeks. >> rose: it's weeks? >> there are legal procedures and due process. we submit application to secretary general, the secretary general hands it to the head of the security council-- which is lebanon, by the way. and then they have to form a committee and in some cases, like in the case of south sudan i think took less than nine hours for the committee to finish. in the case of israel it took nine months. in the case of macedonia (inaudible). so in the applications there's something due process, legal process that weill understand. two weeks, three weeks, four weeks, whatever. but there will be some political maneuvering, someone trying to shelve our application because the pressure being... >> rose: right, right. >> on the member stat is unbelievable. is unbelievable. >> rose: what kind of pressure? >> well we hear that some senators are saying they will cut the aid to the u.n. and these nations will be held accountable to their votes and so on. what? for saying we want two states? we want palestine to liv

captioning sponsored by rose communications from our sdios in new york city, this is charlie rose. . >> rose: a university professor of art history and history at columbia university, a prolific writer, and keen observer of just about everything from a perfectly cooked egg to the politics of the moment. i'm pleased to have him back at this table. welcome. >> thank you. >> rose: often some of the keenest observatioof us is from someone who is not always with us. >> well, you know, i feel moreith us, as it were than not that is truly the way i spend my time but it true to say pie passions are evenly divided. between the two but it does strike me with all my kind of american side of me, operating, we're an extraordinarily dangerous and difficult and worrying moment. because ver possly since the civil war, ctainly not since the new deal have two utterly and unreconcileable philosophies or ideologies of governmen really been, you know, in the boxing ring with each other. one of which, the one that gets the most press and the one which gets the headlines, e republican side. and certainly t

rose: t tour i.r.s. attacks of september 11 took place ten years ago sunday. many say new york, our country, and the world will never be the same. the events on9/11, 2001, took the lives of nearly 3,000 people. one decade later on a warm fall sunday in new york, the 10th anniversary of the attack on america was commemorated at the newly completed national september 11 memorial at the world trade center site. more than 10,000 members of the victim's members families were. there also present, president ama and first lady michelle obama, former president and first lady george w. bush and laura bush, governors, senators, the former and the present mayor of new york city. it was a day to reflect and remember. there were six moments of silence-- twice to mark the precise times each plane crashed into the towers, twice to mark whenhe towers fell, and twice marking when the planes crashed in virginia at the pentagon and in shanksville, pennsylvania. poignant songs and music were performed by paul simon, yo-yo an

. >> rose: the cative brain next. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: tonight wcontinue our exploration of the wonrs of the high man brain. our subject this evening: creativity. we have been fascinated by creativity for centuries. the ancient greeks believe that inspiration comes from the four muses. during the middle ages philosophers separated artistic creativity from other kinds of ingenuity. creativity came to be thought of as a unique skill ly certain people had. today we're rethinking creativity once again. we now know that creative talent not only reserved for the special few, instead it is a crucial part of every profession from acting to engineering. tonight we will explore the sources of inspiration that we can all find within ourselves. we will learn about the biological basis of creativity. like every other aspect of human experience, it originates in the brain. we'll also look at the connections between creativity and mental illness

communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: after world war 2, international diplomacy was mark by conflict between the yoewing's sarcoma say and the sovietnion, for near a nearly 50 yearit was political discord and economic competition, much of the world became divided between the allies of the united states and nato and the allies of the soviet union and its eastern blockbuster. in 1985 mikhail gorbachev became the lead of the stove toyota union, the eventually collapse of the ussr in 1991. 20 years later, many questions remain, what waysed the fall of the soviet union? was it a yearning for freedom or the strict of an economic and systemic collapse? how did the world respond? and what are the implications for today? this year, we mark the 20th anniversary .. of those historic events with a discussion at the knight studio at the museum in washington, dc. it is in partnership with the carnegie endowment for international peace, joining me is a distinguished group with extensive experience on the soviet union and russia during their time in offic

. >> rose: the cative brain next. from our s >> rose: tonight wcontinue o inspiration comes from the four muses. during the mbee fascinated by creativity for centuries. the ancient greeks believe that inspiration comes from the four muses. during the middle ages philosophers separatedturies. the ancient greeks believe that inspiration comes from the four muses. during the middle ages philosophers separated artistic creativity from ot gkieks beliet inspiration comes from the four muses. during the middle ages philosophers separated artistic creativity from other kinds of ingenuity. creativity came to be thought of as a unique skill ly certain people had. today we're rethinking creativity once again. we now know that creative talent not only reserved for the special few, instead it is a crucial part of every profession from acting to engineering. tonight we will explore the sources of inspiration that we can all find within ourselves. we will learn about the biological basis of creativity. like every other aspect of hum

>> rose: because? that dt symbolism, the constant back and forth, the wandering -- think of the thraj that we used charlie. were we sending a message to terrorists? were we standing tall? what was the nature of new york. everybody is eloquent around the table for those reasons but it was burpeddening the site and making it difficult to pick a priority to drive the construction of the site with a of prioritization. once we took the project and looked at the schedules and the budgets and looked at it apart and realized you couldn't go by the 10 years offersry and you simply had to have a place for closure on the tenth anniversary, once we knew we had to do that, decisions got made. so we have thought and thought is probably the bad word but we have tried to get out of that paradigm of debate and more just keep our heads down and -- >> wait for fruments. exactly. >> >> rose: at one point in all ofs about it, as you remember, the idea this could be a renaissanc for architecture in new york. has it turned o

bank of america rose 7% after its own management shakeup. and on a nvidia rose 7%. red lobster and olive garden operator warned hurricane irene will hurt quarterly warnings. >>> urban outfitters was down after warning quarterly sales were slipping. and "reuters" report facebook which is private, doubled revenue in the first half of this year with a net profit of half a billion dollars. >>> well in health news this morning, in the first randomized controlled trial of its krind, weight watchers was found to be more than twice as effective than standard family doctor care. it was an independent study. 12 months, overweight patients told by their doctors to use the program lost twice as much as people receiving standard health care. you can check out the health page on msnbc.com. >>> hitting a homer for grandpa, a tiger tosser keeps winning and losing a no-hitter. >>> plus, sad news, a plane crash in russia stuns the world of professional sports. your "first look" at sports is straight ahead. >>> welcome back to "first look," i'm lynn berry. in sports, makeshift vigils

at the rose ball, update news >> although none of the football players have ever played at the rose bowl, last week's game was a of wide receiver were able to see him play for the first time since high school. ryan kern reports. >> reporter: the environment at the rose bowl can be overwhelming. but for chandler jones, it felt like home >> i'm glad to go back and see everybody. it's kind of good >> jones is from the los angeles area. his friends and family aren't able to see him play much. but this time around, 50 loves ones were in attendance >> what does it mean to have everyone there? >> i'm excited to have my mom my family, my little cousins who look up to me >> jones made national headlines last season. this year he earned a starting position >> i came here as a walk on, on a scholarship so it means a lot to come out here week by week and show what i have to prove >> coach says the sophomore starter is important to their success >> essay very good football player and he'll keep making plays for us >> even though he did not score, seeing everyone again was just as important. at the ro

we'll go live to the rose garden once the president walks into the rose garden.n includes raising taxes on people making more than $1 million a year. a cnn poll shows nearly two-thirds of americans are okay with increasing taxes on those higher income earners. there was a big partisan divide on the topic. four out of five democrats say high income taxes should be raised. only 39% of republicans, though, agreed. republican leadership in congress obviously disagrees with that. let's bring in douglas aiken, douglas, once the director of the congressional budget office, an economist, was an economist for both of the bush white houses and the mccain presidential campaign four years ago. all right. so you know generally most of the specifics, if not all specifics, was the president has in mind. give us your immediate reaction, doug. >> i think from a purely policy perspective, this is very disappointing. the president's own commission, the bowles-simpson commission, a solution our country has largely a spending problem and proposed social security reforms and other ent

the stock rose more than $1 to $87.37 a share. but h.p. was one of the biggest losers on the dow-- investors still not convinced new c.e.o. meg whitman can fix the struggling tech giant. the stock closed today at $22.32, a six-year low. a lot of interest in amazon today. the company said it will hold a special event in new york city next wednesday. shares rose slightly to $223 a share on speculation amazon will launch a kindle-style tablet computer. some earnings news today moving two big cap stocks. nike surging over 5% on those solid earnings we told you about last night, up more than $4 dollars to $88.64 a share. k.b. home today said its third- quarter loss widened, but the stock rose 3% after the builder said it has resolved issues surrounding chinese drywall. airline stocks took flight today, despite growing worries about a global recession. the thinking is falling energy prices will help the industry cope with a drop in demand. j.p. morgan today raised its outlook for the group. delta, u.s. airways and united continental each gained

all 30 dow stocks rose after spiking 9% tuesday. wall street's volatility index, or fear factor, tumbled 9%. just as suddenly, safe havens were out. the yield on the ten-year treasury rose back above 2%. gold tumbled 3%, down $56 an ounce. yahoo jumped over 4.5% after firing their ceo, a move some analysts say now makes yahoo! a takeover target. >>> struggling bank of america rose almost 7% after its own dramatic management shake-up. nvidia zoomed almost 10% on a rosy 2013 sales forecast. dardon restaurants fell after red lobster and other operators said hurricane irene will hurt quarterly earnings. they warn this quarter's sales are slipping. finally, reuters reports facebook, which is private and does not release results, doubled its revenue in the first half of this year, with a net profit of half a billion dollars. >>> coming up, hitting a homer for grandpa, a tiger tops whipping, and losing a no-hitter. >>> plus, a plane crash in russia stuns the world of professional sports. your early morning sports headlines are straight ahe