absolutely. >> rose: thank you for coming. >> rose: gary player is here. he is a legendary golfer who won nine grand slam events. he's one of five people to have one each major at least one time. it'snown as a career grand slam. during the 1960s and' 80s his duals with jack nilaus and arnold palmerlevated golf's stature around the world and next year the bi three will reunitas honory stters at augusta national for the masters. i'm pleased to have gary player at this table for the first time and thank god for that. welcome. >> thank you very much, charlie. an honor t be here. 7,000 or more people, all heroes of mine, have sat at this table. you've done a great job. >> rose: who would have believed let me go back to johannesburg. how did you learn to play this game? >> we have a lot of good courses, a lot of good climat. my father played golf, a poor man but insisted i play golf thank goodness because i was playing other sports. started playing when i was 14 but turned pro at 17 to his disgust. he wanted me to get degrees and i said traveling around the worl

yes. >> rose: meaning? >> rose: mining the process of work. you work on the poem like an infatuation. it happens to you, in one night, in two nights thent's don the it's... either alive or dead but finished. >> rose: or just a memory, yes. >> a short sto is a relationship. a novel takes years. >> rose: some look at this having read the reviews and see chekhov in here. >> well, that's the greatest compliment you could give me. >> rose: beyond any writer chekhov resonates in you and you have more respect for him. >> yes. he's to me perhaps the most single greatest inspiration of my life. >> rose: and the difference between chekhov and shakespeare is... >> i said once that in a shakespearean tragedy in the end the stage is covered with dead bodies and justice prevails. >> rose: exactly. >> whereas in a tragedy by chekhov, i the end everybody's melancholy, unhappy, disappointed, heartbroken, sad but alive. >> rose: but alive, yes. >> and my colleagues and i have been looking for a chekhovian not a shakespearean resolution to the israeli/minuteian

>> rose: welcome to our program. we begin this evening with leymah gbowee, liberian peace and women's rights activist >> my story is the story of every african woman. if you have a true worth of life you just give up, the story is a story of victory. the story is the story of not allowing yourself even as you seem as a victim but that your actions and activities point to one of a hero survivor. >> rose: we continue with the executive editor of the "new york times". >> the new place is the old place in many ways which is what the d distinishes the "times" as quality joualists and we do that in print in the print newspaper and we do it in innovative ways digitally by the hour. we deepen stoes by bringing readers into the conversation, you enliven a story and add new dimensions to it and i've been very invested in our digital work and even arthur would use the phrase we have to be ready for r digital future. well, it's not the digital future, it's the digital president. >> rose: leymah gbowee and jill abramson when we c

rose: did it get easy? >> it got easier. >> rose: when did you know... >> but i always try to walk in the boots ofhe person i'm writing about. that's a good way to, like, make sure you do not have anything gratuitous in ur pieces. >> rose: do you ask yourself "is this fair?" >> do. i do. and i've had some crises in t reporting and writing of stori with myself of, like, this is tough but is it fair and worryingbout that. >> rose: and have you ever said "i went over the line, this isn't fair"? >> um... >> rose: have you been close to the line? >> close to the line on a few, yes. >> rose: like what? >> this is sort of an ancient story. when i worked at the "journal" i did... i broke atory about bruce babbitt was the interior secretary and he had been involved in approving a license for an indian casino and the lobbyist invold in that had been a college friend and it was a big story at the time and in the end i'm not sure i took fair account of the entirety ofis washington career. that i don't thi he was someon

captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: michael lewis is here, he is a best-sell august thor and journalist. his best-known books include "liars poker" "the big short" and "blind t blind side." he's also the author of "money ball" which came out in 2003 with brad pit, jonah hill and philip seymour hoffman. here's an excerpt from the movie. >> hi, mr. shot, it's peter brent. i apologize to putting you on hold earlier. billy asked me to call you back. he's on another line. >> tell him we want $225,000 for ring cone. >> billy he wants $225, forricardo rincon. please, yes, i added thelease at the end. okay, hold on one second. >> tell him i'll pay for one when i sell him back for twice, i keep the money. >> okay, so billy says he'll pay for rincon himself, but when he sells him for more money next year, he's keeping the profit. okay, thank you very much. wel call you back. thank u. >> come on! come on! >> rose: (laughs) in his latest book he examine it is roots of the financial crisis in several european countries. it'

is. >> rose: >> yeah. >> rose: you had ryan gosling. >> a young up and comer. >> rose: (laughs) the role fits, does it? >> sure does. he's just amazing. and philip seymour hoffman and paul giamatti on on side sides. >> rose: philip seymour hoffman plays a strategis for you? >> uh-huh. and paul giamatti for my opponent and sort of the... james carville and mary matlin and then marisa tomei. >> rose: what plays the "new york times" reporter? i bet they loved that the that at the "times." >> yeah, don't say in and evan rachel wood who is just unbelievably talented young actress. born in north carolina, by the way. >> she is. she did some theater in north carolina. >> rose: her father is still there. >> he is. >> rose: and jeffrey wright playing a senator who's sitting on top of a bunch of delegates that everybody wants. >> rose: (laughs) whh will cost them. >> we've seen that before, you know. things you get straight away. >> rose: t central khark sister the press secretary. >> in the play and the film, yes. >> rose: he's the central character. >> he is the central character. we have to wat

captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: volcker is here chairman of the federal reserve from 1979 to987, he remained influential in the range of economic issues, in 2009 president obama apinted him chairman of the economic recovery board, gulation bill is called the vehicler rule, wall street banks lobbied heavily against it. there is growing speculation the final product will include provisions to substantially dilute its intent. >> emerged with public comment, i am pleased to have paul volcker back at this tle. welcome. >> thank you. >> rose: so just tell me what you think has happened to what we knew of as the vehicler rule that you intended. >> oh, i think it is okay. there are a lot of commotion about the lengths of the rule and the commentator and all the rest. a lot of lawyers spent a lot of time trying to put holes in this thing and of course the regulators respond by trying to close the holes that they bic in it and you end up with presumably pretty cumbersome piece of paper, i read it myself, the regulati

. >> that is a lot of it. >> rose: that is 15%. >> but dividends are 15%. >> rose: right. >> and they, the ultra rich who are paying really subnormal taxes, and there's a lot ofhem. but there is a lot of them thatren' but there are a lot of them that are, i think can best-- i think it's a terrible mistake to ask 300 million amerans to tighten their belt and ignore that group. >> rose: here's my point. is it because of the economic value of ing that per se in terms of the more revenue going into the irs or is it because the essential fairness of the american system isan important point if you are having the population at large, you have to make damn sure they think that the country is operating out of a sense of fairness. >> it's both. but the second point is the more important than the first point. i would estimate there might be 20, if you put a minimum tax in it would affect a portion of the ultra rich. that might raise 20 billion a year byome rough estimatesment i don't think those are crazy estimates. now 20 billion a year seems lauck a drop in the bucket when you have a deficit o

>> rose: welcome to our program. we begin this evening with the great israeli novelist amos oz. >> i said once that in a shakespearean tragedy, in the end the stage is covered, filled with dead bodies and justice prevails. >> rose: exactly. >> whereas in a tragedy by chekhov, in the end evebody's melancholy, unhappy, sappointed, sad but alive. and colleagues and i have been lking for a chekhovian not a shakespearean resolution. the this is about small-time people and small time lging. >> rose: and an excerpt from an up coming shakespeare series, harvard professor stephen greelatt talking aut "hamlet. >> what a cplex act it is to know who you are. to fulfill the expectations of your parents, to ke youway theworld, to understand that you are not simply in the world to make it what you want but you're given a set of, in effect commands and you can ask questions about them and question them. but you can't escape them. you have to struggle with them and see where they lead you. hamlet, is, of course, a tragic case of this

>> rose: why did it take so long? this is a classic story written in 2003 and is appearing eight years later in 2011. >> it was not an obvious movie. i thought when they bought... when columbia pictures bought it i thought they were nuts. i was glad they bought it but i thought they were nuts and i think they'll never make it. and then it waslear they were going to make it i thought, oh, no, it's going to be terrible. and the problem with it is that the book is really the story of an idea. it's a sry of this idea of how people get valued and how rkets can misperceive the valu of people, even professional baseball players and if they can... if you can misperceive baseball players, who can't it misperceive. but the biogphy of billy bean is in the service of that idea and it's woven into t book. but it isn't the biography of billy bean. and the vie people took the story and turned it into the story of a man and they managed to get across the ideas pretty well at the same time. it surprised me how good it was. >> rose: it

and that was professional mostly. >> rose: mostly. >> but also -- >> rose: did he edit?> unbelievably wonderful. in my whole life i think edited 4 million people and i never worked with anyone that was like this, because he approacd his n work from a totally objective point of view, like he was reading somebody else. it was like being two surgeons working on the same corpse and you would say, you know, this is not really this good. right, what if we do this? and i said, yeah that might work but what if we do it this way great but let's put a "the" in there and we would be satisfied and move on and no matter whether it was changing a comma or removing a chapter, it didn't me any difference. he either had none of tha quality of resistance and stress and persecution i have known other brirz to have. >> what is the worst example of a writer miss behaving when you are trying to edit? >> well, i don't blame them. that's a normal way to react but i don't know whether it was real or his usual brilliant contl but as you know he was once my office and another one of my writers, ro

essentially. >> rose:... america's credit rating. >> essentially. and by the way i think it's very important to understand that the government debt is the terrible challenging issue that we should talk about maybe but also more important is the private sector debt. so that resolving the public sector debt does not resolve the problem. that individuals face the same problem, meaning that they're overly indebted. and because they're overly indebted and spend a lot of their consumption through borrowing and they had a... it was like if you borrow you have a party and everything's good and you have a prosperity and you have your party, you hire the caterers, they're employed and everybody's happy. so that there's a private sector debt issue at the same time as the public sector debt. they're both. so if you resolve the budget deficit, you do not resolve the private sector debt issue. both of those things mean we're both overly indebted. we cannot... the amount we owe and have promised in its various forms can't b

people. >> rose: out of a population. >> out of 7 billion. >> rose: 7 billion. 1.5. >> so in the next five years, that number will go from 1.5 to 5. that is the opportunity. >> rose: 1.5 to 5. >> in the next five years. >> rose: in the next five years. >> because of the smart phones and tablet. >> rose: the price will come down as well. >> exactly t is coming down. world population is $7 billion and there are 5.7 billion phones. so these people are today using phones, almost we have reached a very high level of penetratn. almost everybo in africa, in amazon, in turkey, in united states, they all have phones. today we are connecting thes people through a very thin wire of voice and short message. but with this mobile internet broadband, it will be a much bigger pipe. so video will be the main information data that is flowin so peoplwill have access to education, health information, business information, entertainment, all around the world through this mobile internet so they don't have to come from turkey or africa to the united states to access knowledge. they can have this through te