rose. >> rose: hardly. take me to when you first saw this. what results you and i sitting here at this table this evening talking about this movie. >> well, it all started that day that i caved in and went to see an evening of dance because i was anything but a dance fan. didn't like ballet, didn't like modern dance. include me out. so -- >> rose: why was that? >> i don't know. i didn't have the antenna. i felt you needed the antenna to appreciate it and i didn't have it. one night i went to see two pieces by pina bausch reluctantly and in five minutes i was in my seat weeping. >> rose: crying. >> i didn't know what was happening to me. i'm not a sort of teary guy. i was weeping all through the thing and i didn't know what hit me. i didn't know what that woman was doing that concerned me so much. and the intermission was enough for me to dry my tears and then i saw the second piece and that did me in forever. and from that moment, i had to pass on that virus to anybody who like me was not into death. >> rose: so it took you a while. >> it too

>> rose: welcome to our program. we begin evening with an assessment of the third day of supreme court hearings on the health care reform law from jeffrey toobin of seep then and the "new yorker" magazine. >> it's really an incredible thought when you think of the importance of this law, when you think of the extent of this law and the scope of it and how much heart that i can the country went through to get it that the idea that the united states supreme court might throw the whole thing out is pretty amazing stuff. >> rose: we continue with part two of my conversation with former secretary of state james baker. >> rose: people often ask me what does it take to be a good secretary of state and i tell him one thing primarily and that is you must have a seamless relationship with your president. because your president has got to... you're going to make mistakes and your president's got to protect you and support you and defend you and if he doesn't you can't be successful and i made plenty of mistakes and my president

>> rose: welcome to the program. tonight christine lagarde managing director of the imf. >> the legal training that i've had and having been exposed to international clients and international systems of flow and conflict of flow i think helps me day to day because my economists, my terribly fantastically talented economists are expert at playing with numbers and modelling and with the legal mind you approach differently and it helps me better understand them. >> rose: we continue this evening with susan lyne and kevin ryan of gilt. >> i think we created something new that's e-commerce 2.0. that's curated that's excitementinexciting and love it. >> people would say i love gilt. my favorite e-mail said if gilt was a guy i would marry. >> rose: and we talk to reid hoffman. >> the key thing in the modern world which is globalization and technology the pressures go down to the individual. individuals need to be adaptive and invest in themselves and best path is entrepreneurship. >> we wanted to show how the ideas of techn

captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: the airline industry is under going great change in recent decade, deregulation came in 1978. the september 1t 1th attack and prices, the string of mergers and bankruptcy, asking serious questions of the airline. joining me now is bob crandall former ceo of american airlines. "wall street journal" once called him the man who changes the way the world flies. and peter greenberg has covered aviation for news week and nbc he is now the travel editor at cbs. i'm pleased to have both of them at this table. here's the question was deregulation good for passengers and for the american public. >> i think the answer to that charlie depends on how you define good. if you define good as only the cheapest possible fare, yes, it was g if yo good. if you define good as ubiquitous service making it possible for people all over the united states to reach other places and international. and if you define good as some reasonable standard of service, the answer is deregulation was a terrible er

our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: bruce ratner is here, the chairman & ceo of forest city ratner companies. he is one of the nation's most successful urban real estate developers. 25 years ago he saw the potential to revitalize brooklyn that ambition lead to the metrotech center, a 16 acre corporate campus that has produced more than 20,000 jobs. today his attention is focused on redeveloping the atlantic yard site at the centre of that project the barclays center. it will be home to the nba nets franchise. they depart new jersey for brooklyn next year. i'm pleased to have bruce ratner at this table for the first time. welcome. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: we do lots of architects on this program as you know. >> it's true. >> rose: your friend frank ghery has been on ten times at least. but not many developers. tell me how you see developers and you ho you-- what do you think of the role of developers and why should we add mayor them and why should we not so much admire them. >> that's a very, very good question. well, first of all, i think the way i thin

>> rose: welcome to our program. we begin this evening with the south african playwright athol fugard. >> it's a dangerous word because it's abused often but you know, we are all serving bigger than ourselves. there's nothing more painful for me than to see a moment in theatre when it's vanities and conceits that are the reason for what's happening on stage and not service to something else. >> rose: we continue with agnieszka holland and her movie in darkness. >> you have a lot of ethnic cleanings and the murder in rwanda and bosnia and it means there's a virus we cannot really know and understand and the only way to try to really fight it is to talk about it. it's to try to wake up the emotional imagination and that's what movie can do. movie cannot do too much but can give you the experience and the experience wakes up the inner part and that's the most important thing. >> rose: we conclude the evening with sean brock all about southern cooking and his places in south carolina. >> knowledge and wisdom is everythin

all pretty accurate. >> rose: and hugely vain. >> and vengeful. >> rose: and vengeful. >> rose: the book is called "the man without a face: the unlikely rise of vladimir putin." masha gessen. >> rose: peyton manning, one of the great n.f.l. quarter backs is leaving indianapolis today. the indianapolis colts announced the release of manning. he played 14 seasons with his team. he brought built the colts into an n.f.l. power. despite an other injury-free career he has been plagued by four neck surgeries over the last 19 months. he addressed the media today in a very emotional press conference. >> i've been a colt for almost all of my adult life but i guess in life and in sports we all know that nothing lasts forever times change, circumstances change and that's the reality of playing in the n.f.l. it truly has been an honor to play in indianapolis indiana. i do love it here. i love the fans and i will always enjoy having played for such a great team. i will leave the colts with nothing but good thoughts and gratitude to jim, the organization, my teammates, the media, and especially the fan

>> rose: welcome to the broadcast. from washington, d.c., a conversation with the commander of american nato forces in afghanistan, general john allen. >> so if you're the taliban and you believe that on the 31st of december 2014, that's the end of the international presence in afghanistan, that's a faulty assumption. and there will be an international presence in afghanistan for a very long time. there will be a government relationship. there will be diplomatic relationships, there will certainly be economic relations but there will also be, very importantly, a security relationship between the united states and afghanistan but the broader international community as well. in many respectes, the taliban has had difficulty sustaining themselves inside the human terrain because they've been rejected. the people do not want to go back to a taliban environment. they were on the fence for a while because they were not sure how this would turn out. but as local governance continues to gain traction, as economic opportunity b

>> rose: funding for charlie rose was provided by the following. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. campaign. ten states across the nation went to the polls today. 419 delegates were at stake, ohio, tennessee and georgia. as of this taping a clear winner has yet to be declared in ohio. mitt romney and rick is an form continue to balance it out. rick santorum prevailed in tennessee with a comfortablably. mitt romney won his home state of georgia with homes this will revise his campaign. republican candidate to one 1,144 delegates will falls president obama in november. joining me from washington, al hunt in charge of bloomberg's coverage, jane coming editor of bloomberg news. mike murphy a contributor to "time" magazine and republican at any rate gist and matt dowd is a contributor for abc news and bloomberg news. i'm pleased to have both of you at this table. how good is that, al. we go first to al hunt. don't you michigan you were at the table. >> -- don't you wish you were at the t

>> rose: turkey would come?at they would but they have a national interest in coming. he might get attacked from -- by the republicans for saying, well we would be sitting down with iran, you don't want to sit down with iran, well, guess what? the first time, iran helped us. we asked them. they -- >> well pqv had a rob with the taliban, a, they lost 40,000 people. >> and they will have another big problem if this thing unravels there. that's why the conference makes sense. >> rose: and guess what jim baker also believes that you ought to be talking to the iranians anyway. >> i think you ought to talk to everybody. >> rose: but you specifically include talk to iran, don't have these conditions you have to have conditions before you talk. >> yes don't be afraid to talk if you know what you are doing you don't lose a damned thing by talking. i don't buy to this argument you give somebody by talking to them if you are tough. >> rose: what is going to happen there? do you think the israelis at some point are going to

captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: erskine bowles and alan simpson are here, in february of 2010 president obama pointed to to do chair his bipartisan deficit reduction commission. they were tasked to lay out recommendations to reduce our deficit and balance the federal budget by 2015. the final proposal offered to cut more than 3.8 trillion over ten years, the simpson-bowles plan failed to achieve a majority and never came to a vote in congress. since then this proposal has been widely debated and seen as a model for real deficit reduction. erskine bowles was white house chief of staffs in the clinton administration, he helped negotiate the last major bipartisan budget agreement in than 77, mr. alan served as united states senator from wyoming to 1979 to 1997, he also served as senate republican whip for ten years. i am pleased to have both erskine bowles and alan simpsons with me to talk about one of the most important issues facing this country in a long time. where do you think we are with respect to getti

>> rose: welcome to our program. tonight, a look at the supreme court's consideration of health care reform legislation. we're joined by four legal experts, walter dellinger, jeffrey toobin, stuart taylor and richard epstein. >> this is the biggest case involving the power of the federal government since the new deal. and, you know, if this law is struck down, the federal government is going to look very different the next day. and lots of plans and lots of existing programs are in jeopardy. so, i mean, as big as you think this case is, it's actually bigger. >> three provisions are clearly at stake, one of which is unpopular-- because it's misunderstood, the mandate-- two of which are extremely popular and it's sort of an act of political malpractice that no one knows but that the unpopular provision is before the court and they don't know the popular provisions are being challenged. >> rose: we conclude with a conversation with lowell bergman, the producer of a "frontline" documentary on pbs about the murdoch invest