let's speak to rose gottemoeller, former deputy secretary general of nato from 2016 to 2019, now a lecturerme. i wonder, first, given your previous history at nato, what your previous history at nato, what your reaction is listening to the former president of the united states there?— former president of the united states there? first of all, these were very _ states there? first of all, these were very familiar _ states there? first of all, these were very familiar talking - states there? first of all, these | were very familiar talking points during his first term in office, and he referred to that period. to be frank with you, secretary—general stoltenberg at the time, we welcomed his, i will put it this way, strong urging of the allies to step up to the 2% of gdp commitment that you mentioned, that they did make to counter, to be prepared to counter russian aggression, when the russians first you invaded ukraine in 2014. so these are familiar talking points to a certain extent. what really concerned me was that he went on to say, and i would encourage putin and russia to do whatever the