and i started, the late rosemary clooney, we were just amateurs hoping for a break, and she camerst, she won an amateur contest like "american idol" you know she came in first, i came in second and rightfully so because she was a beautiful singer and a lovely human being, and we were told by the old masters like george burns and jack benny, they said, son, you're off to a good start but it's going to take you seven years before you become a competent performer, performing in front of an audience, but now these new schools, they're teaching them what to expect and how to be prepared. >> and in your experience, are they as prepared and ready and able to nurture their talent in the same way you could after years of treading those boards? is it as good? >> they were all very professional. they were all prepared. they came in. i loved lady gaga. when i first met her on this record date, and she was -- she went to the whole staff after it was finished, the recording that we did, thanking them for believing in her. she was so sweet to everybody, to every stagehand and everybody, "thank