rosendale: mr. delbene, clearly learned some lessons in vbms, hr, moving toward a more agile, less risky approach. we are also arguing plummeting this? mr. delbene: ironically, where we are ending up in the ehrm program is an incremental approach. if you look retrospectively, we have established six locations where it is today with the pause we are resetting to get it right . hindsight is 20/20, but you probably should have done that from the beginning. scope of the project from the beginning should have been this first pod, and then you would broaden beyond that. i think it's the model we are using everywhere. even if fmbt -- it's been talked about as big bang. it is not really. get the blueprint of the financial transformation right, start with some of the core offices and add vba. that thing we will have to do in the future which we are just doing with the central offices in the first to central office first is the rollout. that will be complex. but i don't think it is completely accurate to say

rosendale, you have got five minutes. rep. rosendale: i appreciate it. i heard some questions earlier and folks were talking about the prescription drugs and i certainly as a former insurance commissioner for the state of montana understand that the prescription drug costs are one of the major driving factors in health care increases. i mean, nationally, it's just a fact, which is exactly why i sent you -- this is actually the second letter, dr. elnahal, in regards to the prescription drugs being used for the weight loss drugs. thousands of dollars per month per veteran for weight loss drugs that have so many side effects and require a lifetime of taking for any benefit and are way more expensive than the european countries and failed to address the root cause of veterans metabolic dysfunction. i am a firm believer in trying to resolve the problem instead of just trying to take a pill to cover up -- cover it up and so i have a couple of questions. first, ms. duke, your earlier request included $1 billion for weight loss and liver disease drugs. your new

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. >> think it at representative rosendale your records for five minutes for. >> thank you very much mr. chairman for holding this hearing today. while i'm not always agree with the department of veterans affairs the by the minister had been largely trussed up at the veteran's interest first. i've always respected and let him know when we disagree on policy but i never question his teams desire to make veterans. this whole budget shortfall has shaken my trust in va leadership. as usual i can call things as i see you then. you are accustomed at the white house the va did not initially submit an acura request for the 2025 fiscal year because i personally believe they wanted to sneak by the spending caps established by the fiscal responsibility act. by demonstration effacement a higher va budget request congress when appropriate the money. we always have. we always have. the result the department of housing and urban development the department of justice. i note some of my democratic colleagues think that will be a terrible thing. i don't necessarily agree with that. but it is called budge