june 8th, 2018, he said then -- rod rosenstein, an unsolicited memo arguing that the mueller investigation should not be able to force the president to submit to interrogation about obstruction. in a text message sending the memo, our wrote that he feels very deeply about some of the issues taking shape in the matter. how often did you meet with attorney general barr in 2019? >> before i was special counsel, maybe, well, with him himself, i don't know, maybe every two weeks, three weeks, something of that sort. sometimes more frequently. >> and then after? >> after i had been appointed special counsel, i don't know, i mean i'm sure i saw him, but i did meet with him. >> a lot. >> now it's not a lot. >> how often did you speak or text with the attorney general? this is during the investigation. >> during the, when i was special counsel, or prior to that? >> special counsel sir. >> i don't know how many times. >> according to now public records, barr scheduled at least 18 meetings or calls with you between 2019, march, and october 2019. and you and he text message with each other frequently.