this was clearly a tribute to the journalism practiced by abe rosenthal. he was executive editor, and journalism based on professional detachment as much as possible, impish -- impartiality. it was important to keep the right hand, because the newsroom would naturally drift to the left. he believe there should be no editor needles in which reporters used their personal or political opinions to go after anybody. he believes there should be no quotes that were either unattributed or made somebody look bad that weren't fair. rosenthal was raid -- was paid -- patriotic, and weary of conflicts amongst the reporter. when he found out a woman he hired had an affair with the politician in philadelphia, maybe the mayor, he fired her and said, i'll pay deference to the fact this is a catholic institution. i don't care if my reports bleep the elephants, if they do, they can't cover the circus. let's fast forward a bit. it's 2003, in the wake of the jason pledgerrism scandals, tv comedians having a field day. "the new york times" has a new slogan, we make it up. in th

rosenthal was determined to keep the paper street. he once told joe louisville that it was important to keep the firm right hand on the tiller because the news room would naturally drift to the left. he believed that there should be no editorial needles in which reporters use their personal political opinions to go after anybody. he believed that there should be no pejorative quotes that were either not attributed or made somebody look bad that workfare. rosenthal was very patriotic and was extremely weary of the counterculture. and he was also very weary of conflicts of interest among his reporters. when he found out that the woman he had hired had once had an affair with a politician in philadelphia, believes when he had been mayor, he famously five-year her and said, you know, difference to the fact this is a catholic institution. i don't care if my reporters believe the elephants, but if they do, they can't cover the circus. [laughter] so let's fast-forward a bit. it's 2003 in the wake of the jason blair plagiarism scandal, tv com

c-span: who was joe rosenthal? >> guest: joe rosenthal was a 5 feet 4-inch guide who jumped on i believe for d-day's in the pacific to take pictures. this is an american hero and he gets up there and mount sara bocce and he has this big bulky camera. out of the corner of his eye he sees some action and he goes like this like a football game. he doesn't even focus it. people say the photo is pose which is ridiculous. joe was so far way he could yell at the guy. they didn't know there is a photographer. he barely got the shot and you know what the photographer who later becomes the most reproduced photo in the history of photography? dena what he thought at that moment? so he asked the lieutenant deposed 18 guys underneath this flag when it was up and he took a posed shot. he took a gung ho shot. my dad and three the flag raisers are in there, ira hayes, franklin sousley, mike strank are in there. josie sedin thinks it will make ahead back in the united states. he didn't see the flagraising shot. the film goes to gua

a pulitzer prize winning image captured by joe rosenthal. >>> and happy birthday to peter fonda.the owe easy rider" actor turns 71. 71. >>> all day long, you can stay on top of the very latest developments in those stories and others as they break on msnbc. and tonight be sure to watch brian williams with nbc "nightly news." >>> and, finally, here's a look at what's coming up later this morning on the "today" show. "today" takes you live to libya, where leader moammar gadhafi is accusing protesters of serving the devil. >>> and meet the characters from the oscar nominated film "the fighter." >>> now keep it on this channel for continuing local news, weather, sports and more. i'm lynn berry. thanks for watching "early today," just your first stop of the day today on your nbc station. have a good one.

last summer, ahnnah rosenthal, made a trip to dachau and auschwitz with a delegation of american imams and muslim leaders. many of them had previously denied the holocaust. none of them had ever denounced holocaust denial. by visiting the concentration camps, they displayed a willingness to consider a different view. the trip had a real impact. they prayed together. they sign the messages of peace. many of those messages in the visitors' books were written in arabic. at the end of the trip, they read a statement that their growth and signs together condemning without reservations holocaust denial and all other forms of anti-semitism. the marketplace of ideas worked. these leaders had not been arrested for their previous stance or ordered to remain silent their mosques were not shut down for the state did not compel them with force. others appealed to them with facts. their speech was dealt with through the speech of others. the united states does restrict certain kinds of speech in accordance with the rule of law and our international obligations. we have rules of libel and slander, de

there was no such thing as a media critic and abe rosenthal's age most of his age editing a paper. media critic started to pop up in the mid-to late 1970s and they became ubiquitous. it gets nailed by everybody, all of its mistakes are exposed immediately. i think this is another important change. i going to sam that the times did not make mistakes in the 1950s and 60s. i assume rather that they were exposed by endless numbers of media critics and bloggers. another point about the so-called golden age. speaking of criticisms of the times from the left eye can promise you that one could write a book and people have written books like bill's they take the times mac to test from the liberal side with just as much fervor inciting nearly as many examples. bill cites a couple in the book that liberal critics hell rains for example of which i was one and he quotes me accurately as having criticized his editorial page when he was running the editorial page in the clinton years. and the editorial page is an important example. this was not the times being a partisan democrat paper by me stre

but that said, there was a conference where i had the chance to meet a guy named jack rosenthal who was a managing editor at the "new york times." and basically i told him that i'm researchiresearching wasted food and he said something like okay, yeah, that's a pretty interesting, but why should i care? what's the big deal? i bought this food and if i want to throw an outcome isn't isn't that my business? to be perfectly honest i didn't have a great response. i was kind of dumbstruck. it was the first time that anyone had really provided any opposition when i talked about the topic. it's not like there are many people out there who are actually pro-foodways. [laughter] thank god. so anyway when jack said that to become it was really constructive criticism because i had to go back and really think about how to craft an argument and to do so in an intelligent way. i kind of wanted to tell him, and you know, just because come the recent foodways is wrong because it is. but that doesn't exactly fly. so why did was think about that. and if you see in the book, dedicate an entire chapter to a

rosenthal did develop 3537 goals. >> when they send me one good idea. how about all the libraries over america. >> stain stuff like that gets published. anyway, you really want to propose things that could work. we have the mechanisms from a commercial site her, like a competitive marketplace of successful ideas. people used to say the want that to our community and will raise over the next however long it takes the first 5% and other communities around them within the low-income communities. dr. rosenwald said here that the carnegie day. and respects the dignity of people. it doesn't say will come in at exit. you live right there and will dwell over knee with a solution. >> keep out thousands of them, but the community had to show a clear plan to sustain them over time. >> rosenwald went into communities where sharecroppers about 30 years since the end of the civil war. and he said when he realized that 80% of the black children in the south were not being taught to read. he said no one will be able to engage in buying my product unless they have a job

last summer, hannah rosenthal, the u.s. special envoy to monitor and combat anti-semitism, made a trip to dachau and auschwitz with a delegation of american imams and muslim leaders. many of them had previously denied the holocaust, and none of them had ever denounced holocaust denial. but by visiting the concentration camps, they displayed a willingness to consider a different view. and the trip had a real impact. they prayed together, and they signed messages of peace, and many of those messages in the visitors books were written in arabic. at the end of the trip, they read a statement that they wrote and signed together condemning without reservation holocaust denial and all other forms of anti-semitism. the marketplace of ideas worked. now, these leaders had not been arrested for their previous stance or ordered to remain silent. their mosques were not shut down. the state did not compel them with force. others appealed to them with facts. and their speech was dealt with through the speech of others. the united states d