jessica rosenworcel: isn't that crazy? it seems to me that the record together and hashing south, and members of congress can get together, have discussions. they can talk with solutions for the companies and institutions. it will be better off if we had the ability to visit with one andher and spake more often more candidly about how to manage the issues before us. mignon clyburn: we are on the cusp of a final decision. share, thatoners this is not a final say so when decisions. our it is cumbersome, it makes for disjointed conversations. we have been talking about it for years. it is something we to look at, because it promotes this kind of exchange and interactions that we have. peter slen: let's see if the republicans agree. this is something that is not in our power to remedy. it is up to congress to change the law. many moreare so important process reforms that we could and should adopt. we talked about the radical notion that they would publish ,hat they're proposing to do and allow a vote on it. there are very basi

here'sijessica rosenworcel: something that concerns me. all of our issues are getting more technical and complicated, and we need more engineers. the agency is operating with its lowest level of engineers in decades, and our engineers who are tremendous are older individuals. , for some time, an attorney program at the fcc, and i think it is fair to say that we have a lot of attorneys and washington, d.c. i would like us to convert that program to an honors engineering program and invite engineers aggressivelys more and earlier in their careers, and i hope that going forward we can make that a priority. to answer your question, i think the fcc has adequate resources to discharge its responsibilities. the question is, what is the fcc doing with those resources? when you think about the rabbit toes the fcc staff have had pursue, it is striking how much , andhas simply been wasted how many delegate responsibilities have been ignored. with respect to broadband appointment, there is so much the agency should be doing, but instead we have spent

commissioner rosenworcel? >> guest: sure. well, i had the great privilege a couple of years ago working for the united states senate, so i know deep in my bones we have to respect the laws that congress has placed before us and asked us to implement. and we certainly do have a sectioning of the statute that speaks to the competitive availability of navigation devices which is legalese for our current set-top box rulemaking. i think we also have to be mindful of the contributions of congress and letters and our conversations back and forth, and we're wrestling with all of that information right now in the proceeding we have before us. >> guest: we're a data-driven agency, and i really think this exercise which i often refer to notices of this type as, i really think it is healthy for us to pause and look and weigh in. you know, these are important, serious or, complex issues that we're talking about. we're talking about consumption habits of our citizens. i really think it's important for us to really look at the entire ecosys

commissioner rosenworcel. >> guest: good point. i look forward to reading more about them in the record. >> guest: peter, we have somebody. >> host: i will get to him in few seconds. commissioner clyburn, let's go around the horn on this question, in your view who owns the last mile into the home or business? >> guest: who owns the last mile or who is responsible for the last mile? that is interesting, who owns it. i never really thought about it. i think once you cross my boundaries it is, you know, it's me. but i think our changing who is responsible for it i think it is all of us. we should enable that connectivity, there are 34 million americans who don't have, who can't answer that question right now. they don't have the capacity for what we define as high-speed internet. i think that is important. that is a great question exactly how you phrase it but i will say we all have a role to play as opposed to ownership. >> guest: if i understand your question correctly, years ago it used to be local telephone company owned last mile

that makes perfect sense, but commissioner rosenworcel and i both shared a joint board, intersect of the federal and state commissioners. and it's like musical telephone chairs. you've got the three of us that are members, and at 10:4:51 of us has to sign off and another one has is another we document a process that does not a final say-so when it comes to our deliberation. so it's very cumbersome. it really makes for disjointed conversations and i think, we've been talking about it for years but i think of something we need to look at. it really just, it kind of promotes this kind of exchange or interactions that we have. it absolutely makes no sense. >> host: let's see if the republicans a great. >> guest: congress establishes over four years ago and the sunshine act would be up to congress to change the law. in the meantime there are so many more important process reforms that we could and should about. commissioner white and i talked about for example, the radical notion the fcc should problems when it is proposed to the four votes on it and allow the market people to have input.

. >> i think commissioner rosenworcel framed this issue perfectly. >> there you go. >> question is what kind of regulatory framework consumes. i entirely embraced the 2012 goals in the state of privacy report by what level playing field for competitors than this base and a consistent set of protections for consumers. now let me give you an example of how the fcc's approach is not the rails in this regard. if you are at home with an android smartphone in a power up your home wi-fi network, you are using one. if you then go to work on the highway and overfill your network come you may have another isp. when you're at work in user works wi-fi network company might get a third. if you take a coffee break at a local starbucks community on the fourth. now consumers using the internet in that way an increasingly mobile world to face the multiplicity of regulations depending who the isp is good you might not even know who it is. yet the sec was particularly stingy regulations, far more than the don of the commercial internet to single out isps as uniquely competitive and no-space. it makes abso

little bit of it her fossil going on in the senate regarding one of her colleagues and commissioner rosenworcel. to think she should be confirmed for a full second appointment? >> guest: i put out a press release to that effect when her nomination was sent by the person to the senate. i believe the nomination process to my friends and colleagues and the senators in the body. they know best and that's their job. she has been a great colleague of mine and the senate will have to decide whether she should stay. whose land you mentioned it eating an election year. does that curtail some of your activity at the fcc, much like since it's an election year we don't know who is going to be the president next year and who's going to be in a penetration? >> guest: in my vast experience the answer would be generally yes. past instances of an election year we saw the commission's lowdown is your closer to election day. i don't know that's going to occur this go-round. chairman wheeler has a fairly broad and strong agenda that he tends to want to move in the next many months so i think we are going to see th

little bit of a kerfuffle going on in the senate regarding one of your colleagues, commissioner rosenworcel. do you think that she should be confirmed for a full second appointment? >> guest: well, i've said positive things and put out a press release to that effect when her nomination was sent by the president to the senate, but e leave the legislating and the nominating process to my friends and colleagues and to the senators in the body. they know best. that's their job, it's not mine. i've put out some thoughts. she's been a great colleague of mine, and the senate will have to decide whether she should stay. >> host: and you mentioned it being an election year. does that curtail some of your activity at the fcc much like since it's an election year, we don't know who's going to be the president next year, who's going to be in the administration? >> guest: in my past experience the answer would be generally, yes. past instances of an election year you saw the commission slow down as you got closer to an election day. i actually don't know if that's going to occur this go around. chairman