rosie duffield me is a up.d by your colleagues in the house of is not much fun. of commons is not much fun. >> matthew lazor so according to adam brooks, you are a virtue signalling and your signalling fraud and your response ? response? >> oh, adam, look, company. look, i think that kids come up with a very sensible policy, but it should have been there in in place earlier because it would have made some of the cringe moments that we've seen, not just with keir, but with other labour people being put onto the rack when there wasn't a clear labour policy. think this labour policy. i think this policy eminently sensible . policy is eminently sensible. well, the rights and well, it respects the rights and the the very small the needs of the very small number of trans people that there are, but also protects there are, but it also protects women's . so, you women's rights as well. so, you know, on keir for, for know, good on keir for, for putting this in place. >> would he have done it if he hadnt >> would he have

rosie duffield me is a up.d by your colleagues in the house of is not much fun. of commons is not much fun. >> matthew lazor so according to adam brooks, you are a virtue signalling and your signalling fraud and your response ? response? >> oh, adam, look, company. look, i think that kids come up with a very sensible policy, but it should have been there in in place earlier because it would have made some of the cringe moments that we've seen, not just with keir, but with other labour people being put onto the rack when there wasn't a clear labour policy. think this labour policy. i think this policy eminently sensible . policy is eminently sensible. well, the rights and well, it respects the rights and the the very small the needs of the very small number of trans people that there are, but also protects there are, but it also protects women's . so, you women's rights as well. so, you know, on keir for, for know, good on keir for, for putting this in place. >> would he have done it if he hadnt >> would he have

treatment of rosie duffield, who had then wasised these concerns treatment of rosie duffield, who hadield, who had then was accused of:oncerns treatment of rosie duffield, who had then was accused of all:erns and then was accused of all sorts things being sorts of horrible things being a transphobe , hateful. transphobe, being hateful. >> starmer was >> and then when starmer was asked about he said yes , but asked about it, he said yes, but she have she she shouldn't have said what she said . said. >> ?- g-i e“ >> yes, exactly. and it's not just it's not just women like rosie. , who's had rosie. you know, who's had an absolutely it's absolutely terrible time. it's the women who have stopped going to party meetings because to labour party meetings because they smeared as they know they'll be smeared as bullies and transphobes and compared to and things like that. a really horrible that. there's a really horrible ideology. has taken hold in the party it's really hostile to party and it's really hostile to women and you know, one speech, one article in the guardian doesn't, doesn't actua

treatment of rosie duffield, who had then wasised these concerns treatment of rosie duffield, who hadd, who had then was accused of:oncerns treatment of rosie duffield, who had then was accused of all:erns and then was accused of all sorts horrible things sorts of horrible things being a transphobe , being hateful. sorts of horrible things being a transph(then being hateful. sorts of horrible things being a transph(then when hateful. sorts of horrible things being a transph(then when starmer was >> and then when starmer was asked about he said yes , but asked about it, he said yes, but she have what she she shouldn't have said what she said. >> ?- e-i >> yes, exactly. and it's not just it's not just women like rosie. , who's had rosie. you know, who's had an absolutely it's absolutely terrible time. it's the women who have stopped going to party meetings because to labour party meetings because they smeared as they know they'll be smeared as bullies and transphobes and compared to and things like that. a really horrible that. there's a really horrible ideology. has taken hold in the p

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i think rosie duffield deserves support. they deserve duffield deserves support.o you good indeed. darren what do you make this? just lastly, make of this? just lastly, bigger picture wise, keir starmer obviously decided starmer is obviously decided that electorally it makes sense for him actually just say for him to actually just say what is a fact at this stage. he's he's moving away from the extreme woke ideas on this, it seems. but his list of u—turns now before he's even got into power, if he gets into power, is as long as his arm on everything from green schemes to taxes is to whatever else. >> absolutely . >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> so there is a question there, which is the british public saying, can we actually trust this man? can we actually believe what he's going to say? because he said to one thing to labour members. now he's since reversed position on that labour members. now he's since revewe've position on that labour members. now he's since revewe've justysition on that labour members. now he's since revewe've just been on that labour member

they've lost their jobs, their own duffield own mps you have rosie duffield , villainized by , who'snized by members of her own party. exactly and it's like and now labour are turning around and i'm glad got i'm i'm glad they've got it. i'm glad seem to glad they finally seem to understand important for understand this is important for yeah, but i wish they wouldn't dismiss argument as dismiss the opposite argument as just war. just a culture war. >> no, course so >> no, no, of course not. so much more important now. >> of course it is. and but now they're saying, but we're going to right. it's like, yeah, to do it right. it's like, yeah, you've they've changed their tune. have. tune. i'm glad that they have. but should been but they should have been singing. where this singing. i don't know where this analogy going, but whatever. yeah. >> anyway, trans women are women. women. >> women. >> thank you. a bit of balance there. we're moving there. okay, so we're moving moving on to the guardian now and frances, met's and frances, the met's spokesperson, their spokesperson, really has the

they've lost their jobs, their own duffield own mps you have rosie duffield , villainized by , who'snized by members of her own party. exactly and it's like and now labour are turning around and i'm glad got i'm i'm glad they've got it. i'm glad seem to glad they finally seem to understand important for understand this is important for yeah, but i wish they wouldn't dismiss argument as dismiss the opposite argument as just war. just a culture war. >> no, course so >> no, no, of course not. so much more important now. >> of course it is. and but now they're saying, but we're going to right. it's like, yeah, to do it right. it's like, yeah, you've they've changed their tune. have. tune. i'm glad that they have. but should been but they should have been singing. where this singing. i don't know where this analogy going, but whatever. yeah. >> anyway, trans women are women. women. >> women. >> thank you. a bit of balance there. we're moving there. okay, so we're moving moving on to the guardian now and frances, met's and frances, the met's spokesperson, their spokesperson, really has the

>> the labour mp mary caulfield i >> -- >> rosie duffield rosie duffield is in canterbury. >> these areh person is saying, go and punch them in the face. >> but hate, it's the >> but it's the hate, it's the fact that we can't just discuss, you know, okay, so we have different opinions. we have different we believe that, you know, women know, biological women are women. it's the aggression women. yeah it's the aggression and the rage . and the thing i and the rage. and the thing i find there is a freedom loving there's a freedom for people to have an opinion on things. >> can say but >> and you can say that. but then that moves into the then when that moves into the kind violence kind of territory of violence and real hate , and aggression and real hate, especially viral, especially when videos go viral, it's dangerous for society. it's very dangerous for society. we to have some barriers, we need to have some barriers, some boundaries where somebody is stepping up and saying, we are not going to tolerate this. what's done about it? and what's being done about it? and i like voice is not

we've seen in the labour party the treatment of rosie from party rosie duffield from party members, from. pretty members. there's been pretty appalling why is appalling on this issue. why is it that there a certain it that there is a certain content agent of politician in today's society we that cannot engage with this issue in an aduu engage with this issue in an adult way, but instead says any point of disagreement must be evidence hatred phobia or evidence of hatred phobia or whatever you want to call it. >> there element >> i think there is an element which particularly afflicted which is particularly afflicted by leaning politics of by left leaning politics of identitarian politics. the idea , for example, even when we marched against the iraq war, some have been saying some of us may have been saying not we didn't say not in our name. we didn't say over bodies. over our dead bodies. we threatened to bring the country to a standstill, we didn't. threatened to bring the country to fact. ndstill, we didn't. threatened to bring the country to fact. ndstill, trouble didn't. threatened t

we've seen in the labour party the treatment of rosie from party rosie duffield from party members, from. pretty members. there's been pretty appalling why is appalling on this issue. why is it that there a certain it that there is a certain content agent of politician in today's society we that cannot engage with this issue in an aduu engage with this issue in an adult way, but instead says any point of disagreement must be evidence hatred phobia or evidence of hatred phobia or whatever you want to call it. >> there element >> i think there is an element which particularly afflicted which is particularly afflicted by leaning politics of by left leaning politics of identitarian politics. the idea , for example, even when we marched against the iraq war, some have been saying some of us may have been saying not we didn't say not in our name. we didn't say over bodies. over our dead bodies. we threatened to bring the country to a standstill, we didn't. threatened to bring the country to fact. ndstill, we didn't. threatened to bring the country to fact. ndstill, trouble didn't. threatened t

wholehearted to rosie to your colleague, rosie duffield, dared to say duffield, when she dared to sayen have a cervix , that only women have a cervix, and you thought that she and whether you thought that she was again , was being transphobic again, watch it transphobic to say only women have a cervix. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> good morning, nick. and it's great to talk to you . good to great to talk to you. good to have you. i just think that this issue has just become so divisive and toxic and it pits people against each other, both groups who face discrimination in society , women and trans in society, women and trans women . and i just find this women. and i just find this debate incredibly unhelpful. and unproductive to be totally honest, this conference i want to speak about issues that affect people, whatever their gender and whatever their sexuality. >> but is it transphobic , yes or no? >> look , look, i. >> look, look, i. >> oh, dear . oh, anyway , ceo >> look, look, i. >> oh, dear. oh, anyway , ceo has >> oh, dear. oh, anyway, ceo has thrown in the towel . overal

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and so she's with rosie she's teaming up with rosie duffield labour because so duffield from labour becausese, there's a shocking or getting off for bleeding. getting told off for bleeding. >> i mean, there's all sorts of stories like terrible, terrible stories. bleeding. this stories. bleeding. yeah. this was the article. was in the article. >> . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> that is horrendous. >> that is horrendous. >> i cannot get head around that. >> my experience of postpartum care has been very poor. i mean, i've women falling i've heard of women falling asleep with baby because my asleep with the baby because my mum said to that it was so mum said to me that it was so different she birth in different when she gave birth in the and 90s. she said the 80s and the 90s. she said they take the baby away. they used to take the baby away. yes, they did. >> they in nursery. >> they put it in the nursery. >> they put it in the nursery. >> but nursery, which >> but when the nursery, which is a huge help >> but when the nursery, which is you've a huge help >> but when the nursery, which is you've just|