and gretchen morgenson and josh rosner will answer the questions. [inaudible conversations] >> hi. i want to play devil's advocate to both of you. there are federal agencies in the federal government that regulate fannie and freddie. let's suppose, hypothetically, you were both invited to administer that agency. what would you do in your implementation? >> yeah, sure. um, first of all, the regulators that were charged with regulating fannie and freddie in the years leading up to the crisis when this was really, all this groundwork was being laid were really neutralized. fannie, especially its top executives, understood well how to defang its regulator, how to co-opt congress, make congress really its regulator so, therefore, they could buy congress, and then they'd have everything under control. so for years this regulatory infrastructure over fannie and freddie was a 98-pound weakling, okay? and was punished, you know, that whenever, you know, ofeo tried to talk about safety and soundness issues, it was, you know, drummed out of town. i mean, congress, they would get up on their l