and i am now joined here in the studio by to be a rosner she is a member of one of the opposition parties here in germany the greens a very warm welcome is. in your view what should the german government be doing to better protect a german institutions from cyber attacks first of all of the federal office for cyber security is a very important office and is doing the very good job so it's very good to strengthen and increase the personnel and financial. times also get more of resources and of course i will com also that they are doing more in kind of sense of occasion and that is. for security but critic is for example that the federal government. uses and you can buy security breaches morden or abilities. there are days i think that's not the right way because then you open or keep it open the security breaches and this is the other thing of being more secure and security you have more security so i think we have to strengthen for example open source. we have to do more in encryption we have to do. abstain from head backs for example. abstained from. buying or dealing with. this and we h

and also a couple of earlier one s, particularly the book by morganson and rosner is full of the politics of what was going on. so i am convinced that the federal reserve did not have the political power and what would have happened is that it would have been embroil ed, it would have been embroiled in these debates about social policy. greenspan testified, testified before the senate banking committ committee, he said that we're worried -- i think he said "we," and it probably was fair to say "we," because a lot of us were worried, that we believe that a systemic crisis is likely if we do not have reform. so greenspan was very much out there. and congress absolutely refused to accept any reform. now, keep in mind, this was complicated, also, because president bush's hud kept pushing up the goals. this was president bush. so, and president bush kept talking about the ownership society. and he kept celebrating the home ownership rate. so it was not just the democrats, it was republicans, as well. so greenspan wanted to protect the federal reserve's -- freedom is not quite the right word, b