is at war, rosros jordan, if we can get information out of these detainees, if they have vital intel, that's our job to do so. >> that was the thought of the pentagon since 2001. however there, is a legitimate question about whether sense there hasn't been any significant transfer of people into the camps since 2006, what information do people have, how relevant is it at this point, or are they simply being held because they have not been able to do something with them because of the legal constraints imposed by congress. it really does beg the question is there anything relevant to be gained from the vast majority of the 164 men who are still there at this point. >> task force recommendations. dig into those for us. >> if i could just address the last point first, which is that one of the problems is that rules and directives have changed and been institutionalized. when the 165 people leave guantanamo some day, these rules will still be in place. and that's in some ways the most insidious problem and goes to the heart of the recommendations. which we think the rules that require dev