nikki was the first kfertionz that i had but ross brawn who had a team, it was ross brawn, it was his baby at the time when he came he met me at my mom's house. ross had won world championships with michael. >> right. >> he helped him achieve the championship. and he came had a cup of trea in my mom's kitchen. and showed a proposal of where the team is. and where they are going. and the steps they are going to take to get there so i could have stayed at mclaren, making good money, good environment, with family, been there for years. nowhere else you want to go. but if i really want to test myself as a driver, i've got to drive a different car for another team. win a championship race for laren. laren has had world championships, top drivers for years. so if i'm not just another driver, i kind of am. i want to go somewhere else to prove myself. so i could stay for the short term, maybe another championship in 2013. or can i go somewhere else and be a part of the growth. >> right. >> and like michael, ferrari, he went through a bad period with them. and helped them to be successful. and