>> well, there's the pious ross douthat whose faith was delivered to the saints. historical grounded. a believer in the doing gma of essential christian experience and the political ross douthat who seems throughout this book to be unsure about making peace with a republican party and you are conservative, whose base embraces an absolutist theology. >> ah. i see. you're trying to tug me -- let me -- >> no. there the suspense where you'll come out is worth the price of the book. >> very kind of you to say. i do consider myself a political conservative, and i do identify you know, with religious conservatism broadly speaking and identify with, i think, the causes that animate religious conservatives. i'm pro-life and i think that that cause is immensely important to american christianity, but i also do argue that what's happened on the religious right over the past 30 years is often a sort of captivity of religion to partisanship rather than a religious influencing politics, and i think that's happened, though, on the religious left as well. i think in part the stor