ross douthat is with "the new york times." yuval levin is editor of national after varies, our co-host for this morning's program and hertz something fellow at ethics and public policy center. ray hand is a lam, a awful -- reihan salam. he has been advising yg network. pete winner. --wehnerer. ethics and public policy center. i would ask our panelists and get responses and questions from the audience. let me begin with peter winner, who are the middle class and why is everybody focused on the middle class. >> pleasure to be with you. can you hear? very good. and i, people to my right are going to deal with political philosophy and public policy. i deal with the other stuff which is semantics and polling. to deal directly with kate's question who is the middle class, there is technical and there is a practical answer to that the technical answer, people making somewhere between 39,000 and $118,000 a year. the practical definition is, practically everybody is part of the middle class. everybody in the audience probably considers