said you were fully present for eliana regardless of my previous professional relationship with ross mirkimirkarimi. your text message saying that you need to talk to him to protect him? >> objection, calls for speculation, argumentative. >> overruled. >> yes, i just explained to you where i was coming from when i wrote to that. >> so if i understand correctly, when you met him, you met "he and eil -- eliana"? >> they are a family. ift but when i talked to them, i said they each need to have their own attorneys. that was my suggestions so that eliana was protected, ross was protected, and each -- >> ok. ok, here we go. qt=p$bdsend you texted ross mii -- so you texted ross mirkarimi, coming up on the 4:00 hour, and again, according to exhibit 83, there is a series of telephone calls -- actually, i am ahead of myself, but it is all the same series really. there is a series of phone calls where sheriff mirkarimi joins this conversation that had really been happening between you and eliana lopez for the first time. the first telephone contact between the sheriff and ms. lopez is at 4:23, and