bush and ross perot battle for the white hse. stronger numbers now?st: we thought it was interesting, particularly the 1994 election. you thought there would have been a surge then. but there was not. but there was not. the next highest total was in 1992, when you had that memorable presidential race between clinton and george stage h. bush and ross perot. the record 100 candidates that year. -- there were 2100 candidates that year. host: tell us about what you are watching. with the runoff and arkansas, battles and nevada, california. guest: therere 12 states with primaries. it should give another indication of just where the electorate is, just how angry voters are. there are two races were incumbents seem to be on the ropes. in arkansas, blanche lincoln, a two-term democratic senator is being challenged from the left by the lieutenant governor. she was forced into a runoff in the primary and their runoff is tuesday. it is never good for an incumbent when you are forced into a runoff. so she has her work cut out for her. and in south carolina, a six

whether ross perot or bill clinton or newt gingrich or barack obama or the tea party. that is who they are attaching themselves to and that is why our politics keep swinging become and forth. host: south carolina, a state with a lot going on today. easley, south carolina, pat on the republican lane. -- republican line. caller: i wanted to ask do you think nancy pelosi will be voted out today in guest: no. no. host: any other thoughts and perspective? what is the most important race to you today in south carolina? caller: i think the governor. i kind of want to go with nicky haley is probably who i will vo vote with. i'm not sure yet. i hope south carolina can get back to the morals that we stand for, because what our governor done was a disgrace and it shouldn't happen. i just hope that south carolina can get back to morals what we stand for. host: thank you. take us deeper. this has gotten a lot of play. guest: it sure has. whatever your position on the morals of the state are, i think everybody down there must have a desire to get back to some political comity and a

bush and ross perot battle for the white house. stronger numbers now?uest: we thought it was interesting, particularly the 1994 election. you thought there would have been a surge then. but there was not. but there was not. the next highest total was in 1992, when you had that memorable presidential race between clinton and george stage h.w. bush and ross perot. the record 100 candidates that year. -- there were 2100 candidates that year. host: tell us about what you are watching. with the runoff and arkansas, battles and nevada, california. guest: there are 12 states with primaries. it should give another indication of just where the electorate is, just how angry voters are. there are two races were incumbents seem to be on the ropes. in arkansas, blanche lincoln, a two-term democratic senator is being challenged from the left by the lieutenant governor. she was forced into a runoff in the primary and their runoff is tuesday. it is never good for an incumbent when you are forced into a runoff. so she has her work cut out for her. and in south carolina,

you can see the laager group as kind of like the old ross perot constituency, people who were conservative-leaningne could government, who believe in spending restraint, low taxes, and so on, but are not highly ideological, and they have been moved rightward by tea party activists in the same way many center-left or center-right americans were moved eventually to an anti-war posture. if we take this analysis seriously, i think it suggests two problems going forward. the first of which is the agenda problem, and the problem theree is whereas the anti-war movement had an explicit constant policy method, which was to end the war in iraq and bring the troops home, and having that kind of clear-cut message is a powerful motivational and organizational tool. the tea party message is more in choate. it is riven by deficit. it is a driven by the stimulus. there is not one set issue that has the same kind of resonance as the iraq war did for the anti-war movement. you can say cut the deficit is the issue, but that begs the follow-up question about what programs need to be cut, and the tea party might be di

whethe ross perot or bill clinton or newt gingrich or barack obama or the tea party. that is who they are attaching themselves to and that is why our politics keep swinging become and forth. host: south carolina, a state with a lot going on today. easley, south carolina, pat on the republican lane. -- republican line. caller: i wanted to ask do you think nancy pelosi will be voted out today in guest: no. no. host: any other thoughts and perspective? what is the most important race to y today in south carolina? calleri think the governor. i kind of want to go with nicky haley is probablyho i will vo vote with. i'm not sure yet. i hope south carolina can get ck to the morals that we stand for, because what our governor done was a disgrace and it shouldn't happen. i just hope that south carolina can get back to morals what we stand for. host: thank you. take us deeper. this has gotten a lot of play. guest: it sure has. whatever your position on the morals of the state are, i think everyby down there must have a desire to get back to some political comity and a little les

the giant sucking sound that ross perot predicted never happened. nafta has been good for the u.s. and for foreign policy. host: what about jobs? guest: it never would have had an effect on the unemployment rate. it has created better jobs, better paying jobs, higher level jobs. yes, some jobs have moved to mexico and other countries, but they tend to be the lower- paying manufacturing jobs. nafta has helped us to move up modestly. it has been great for mexico. host: do you agree? guest: the real factor is that when nafta was passed the members of congress voted for, were promised, that we would have greater export and an increasing trade surplus with mexico that would create hundreds of thousands of jobs. we have seen a bilateral deficits grow and jobs lost along with that instead. it would be nice if we could agree now that there was no such promise, but these promises were made. it has not worked out. now we're talking about having enough-style agreements with tiny countries like panama. what is the possible job creation reason for doing an agreement with panama? it is more abou

the giant sucking sound that ross perot predict never happened. nafta has been good for the u.s. and for foreign policy. ost: what about jobs? guest: it never would have had an effect on the unemployment rate. it has created better jobs, betteraying bs, higher level jobs. yes, some jobs have moved to mexico and other countries, but they tend to be the lower- paying manufacturing jobs. nafta has helped us to move up modestly. it has been great for mexico. host: do you agree guest: the real factor is that when nafta was passed the members of congress voted for, were promised, that we would have greater export and an increasing trade surplus with mexico that would create hundreds of thousands of jobs. we have seen a bilateral deficits grow and jobs lost along with that instead. it would be nice if we could ree now that there was no such promise, but these promises were made. it has not worked out. now we're talking about havi enough-style agreements with tiny countries like panama. what is the possible job creation reason for doing an agreement with panama? it is more about protecti