we're not that dumb even though ross perot didn't win he was the most successful dark horse to ever run poor rose right again in one thousand nine hundred six but there was a new third party face in the mix ralph nader. ok. with that enthusiasm nader nation was born his hatred for big government earned him the green party ticket think of the hubris here these two parties have spoiled our elections they've spoiled argh. they spoiled are both making him a popular contender but not a champion neither was steve forbes but he did forever change the third party approach to presidential races using thirty seven million of his own he made it so that money was no object for candidates running outside the well oiled two party system but no amount of money could buy steve forbes or ralph nader the white house that year or the former with the democratic reform if you break the fifty or forty four and that is the real work for the first half was recorded in two thousand both nader and forbes were back running this time nader became known as the spoiler who paved the way for a george w. bush victory

a regular guy, a man of the people, archie bunker, by giving voice, the same way pat buchanan, ross perot, give voice to the rage of the moment. and that is against the establishments in general and barack obama is a personification for it. cliff: he couldn't have written that great book. too well written. it -- he couldn't have gotten into columbia, it's too hard. so racially tinted. >> when you push on that door and it was clearly a reference to fritsch action. you push on -- aaffirmative action. you open that door and i open yourself up to charges of racism. when you speak in those coded words, you open yourself up. he's appealing to this group of people that essentially wants to annul the obama presidency. chris: what i heard, call me naive but i thought once he put out that birth certificate, getting it through the lawyer and getting it certified, everything the critics wanted. i thought that would stop them. >> you were so naive, chris. >> they did pivot very quickly. one of my favorite quotes was trump, i hope it checks out beautifully. such a graceful phrase after he pummeled him

. >> last time i remember anything like this was ross perot in 1992, who didn't give us his schedule.d to run around the country chasing him. some people find it frustrating. some of us actually find it kind of fun. it's part of the process. it's up to the candidates. it's a free country. obviously there's no one who has her name i.d., no one who has her star power. is there anyone -- or if palin gets in the race, let me ask it this way. if palin gets in the race, who falls and gets hurt, and who contrasts get drawn immediately? >> you know, i think there's a short game and a long game there. first i would say if sarah palin gets in the race she's probably one of the only people that look like. >> last time i remember anything like this was ross perot in 1992, who didn't give us his schedule. we had to run around the country chasing him. some people find it frustrating. some of us actually find it kind of fun. it's part of the process. it's up to the candidates. it's a free country. obviously there's no one who has her name i.d., no one who has her star power. is there anyone -- or if

a champ here and ross perot's. and he's going he's losing the strength and i think that's part smart entering that we know that in a story about overhand rights. come out of prison that's not necessarily mean that he's going to do this right so we'll just have to just see what we see in the rain and make adjustments to. speak this is what has always been our g.'s essentially the question is if it's still a shock as it was in his prime. well you know i think level of should just push forward and just try to break john's defense as in terms of skills and speed right still superior i'm not saying the speech is a factor but roy is forty three years old. the hands who face this time and movement myself out of it but who are just the players now the military age is definitely a factor with levity eleven years younger than jones disappear. if say seven eight years ago they had offered me the chance to prepare tennis for the fight against roy jones at that time i would refuse because then in his prime he was just invincibl

and third by a large margin lewis hamilton started and finished the race and fourth while nicole ross perot dropped to fifth that are starting to take from second place russian vitaly petrov he began in seventh and ended up in if place in his red. let's talk sing and money picky how once again successfully defended his w t o water with title this tomic and sugar shane mosley in las vegas a fourteenth street victory for. the phaeton roofer's opponents mostly not done early on for only the third time in eighteen years in the ring hockey out securing the win by a unanimous decision it's now half a dozen years without a defeat for the money hailed as the best pine for upon boucher business. on the. jonathan byrd overcame minor front nine struggles to jump over night leader part praise from top spot at quail hollow the side carline a native leading by a single shot ahead of the final round in charlotte heard what he did. on the opening hole then on the night this thirty three year old go funding is written on the back nine this effort on the fourth to setting up one of the seven birdies a five o

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reading the treaty and the world or it is asian the world trade organization was created and is ross perot famously warned in the one thousand nine hundred two presidential debates about free trade there would immediately be a giant sucking sound of jobs leave america and ending up elsewhere around the world in just two years after america jumped into free trade with the w t o more than four hundred twenty thousand jobs vanished and twenty eight billion dollars worth of business was lost it's pretty clear early on we got ourselves in a bad deal we kept right on with more free trade agreement agreements and more bad deals today more than twenty million jobs have been lost as a result and we currently have the second highest trade deficit as in we're buying more things in the world than we're selling ever recorded in the history of the world. the highest recorded trade deficit by the way was in italy in one thousand twenty four and the economic damage that did to italy lead right straight to fascist benito mussolini taking. another consequence of these free trade treaties is that foreign gov

i remember covering ross perot in 1992. it's not their job to help us. but to the question of fox news, congressman, i assume she's told them that they are not running because i don't believe they would allow a double standard like. this don't you agree? >> it's hard to say. she's obviously a big draw. she's extremely popular. it's quite an exclusive to be able to follow her on this mystery tour, know where she's going, and to be able to get the interviews and sound bites that she is providing them in terms of change and all of those things that really are news leading up to her announcement. >> all right. as we continue our conversation, we're told by our political producer that governor palin -- and i don't want to excite the people around here -- that she's left her hotel and that she's on the move. we think she's going to buy running sox for piper in her tour bus. john, i want to ask you about just the timing and a political sensitivity issue. she was clearly well received on the national mall. she's been well received everywhere that she has gone. b

. >> last time i remember anything like this was ross perot in 1992, who didn't give us his schedule.had to run around the country chasing him. some people find it frustrating. some of us actually find it kind of fun. it's part of the process. it's up to the candidates. it's a free country. obviously there's no one who has her name i.d., no one who has her star power. is there anyone -- or if palin gets in the race, let me ask it this way. if palin gets in the race, who falls and gets hurt, and who contrasts get drawn immediately? >> you know, i think there's a short game and a long game there. first i would say if sarah palin gets in the race she's probably one of the only people that could shake up the race and draw significant support away from most of the candidates. she would hurt immediately people like herman cain and tim pawlenty who trying to get traction. michelle bachmann as well. there's no definable reason for her to be in the race if sarah painl's there. they're so similar. she wouldn't hurt mitt romney much. i don't want it to sound negative toward mitt romney. but ther

ross perot. they were also taking a fair amount of heat for mr. bush's appointment to the supreme court of clarence thomas. says she had a certain amount of concern. then came the clintons. things with the plans started out on kind of a strange footing the magazine concocted what became known as the great cookie controversy. some of you, i can see nodding your has remember this. the question was, who baked the better chocolate chip cookies. was it barbara bush or was it hillary clinton? hillary consort of dismissed this and said to live too busy to bake cookies. you know, let's forget about this. mrs. bush said she thought the whole thing was forgotten. then a few months later the same magazine ran a story saying that in a taste test people like hillary clinton's cookies better. barbara bush said, well, that is interesting because that's not my recipe. well, i mention it because even though it seems like a silly game, perhaps, it garnered of a sudden some very serious comments from reporters and columnists. this also gave mrs. bush a certain amoun

a good example of how this might work is what ross perot did.d some of his employees taken who is tank in iran, he didn't go in to the federal government and say attack them. he got some special forces, his people in there. he went in, got them out and brought them out. [applause] now if this principle had been ingrained in our system and used it, we could have well paid $500 million or $1 billion to capture the individuals responsible. of course we didn't do that. that would have been cheap compared to the trillions of dollars we are involved in now. not only do i see some of that as a conflict and not doing well. every time we occupy a country, every time we kill a civilian. when we lob these bombs into pakistan, civilians get killed, too. they get angry. what would we do? they say there may be taliban in there, and we have to go in there and get them. the taliban is notted al qaeda. the taliban is a group of people that are very determined that they don't want any foreign occupation. that is their religious and political belief. we joined the

ross perot got 19% of the vote simply because there was discussion. but if an opportunity to rewrite the rules, there are certainly preferable ways in the stipulation that impossible other than the two major parties to get some of -- somebody's name on the ballot but i don't know how you change that because the rules for ballot access are written by the incumbents and you aren't going to get courts to invalidate something even though the conflict of interest is enormous. now what was your second question about the federal reserve? the that is certainly true the federal reserve with the congress has given such open-ended authority to the fed that it can do what ever it wishes. it can have 600 billion, a trillion dollars, they are spewing out trillions of dollars we don't know who is getting the money interest free and congress has virtually no -- they've given away all the power. >> private organizations? gannet it is and it is not. you have the open market committee has made up of the presence of private banks but the goal board of governors, they are

in past campaigns, we saw it filled by ross perot, pat buchanan. is there anyone filling it right now? maybe michelle bachmann of minnesota? >> last night, i wracked my brain driving in for the broadcast this morning. it's hard to see. somebody's going to come in. because like i said. no one has a focus on this. but that populist right was represented by trump and huckabee to some extent. and bachmann's the only one of the current crop that could fill that. >> unless palin gets into this. but she's been heard over the last few months -- >> and rick santorum. but i doubt it. >> there is also just general dissatisfaction among republicans with the republican field. with the hope that maybe there is someone out there really big. we look at the list of those that are likely to be running, that can come in and wow the field. any wild cards? >> jeb bush. if jeb bush's name was jeb smith, it wouldn't be a race. i mean -- he's the successful governor twice of a large state. he appeals to social conservatives. he can raise a ton of money. he's a skilled pol

running as an independent here is just about impossible, unless you're a billionaire like ross perot. if i wasn't in the base, you wouldn't have me on this morning. i've been a republican all these years. elected to congress. my family was republican. and i was out of the republican party for one year. there's nothing wrong with nudging the republicans to a true constitutionalism. >> we only have a few -- >> stick to their guns on fiscal conservatism. >> we have a few seconds left. last time around, you bet me everything i had in my pocket that you would win the presidency. it didn't quite turn out that way. how do you define success this time around, in ten seconds? >> my success is, i always win. you know? because i, you know, the victories are one thing. but we win elections when people said we never could win elections. so, i define by doing very well, i believe right now, we're coming in number one in the republican primary is an absolute possibility. many, many times better than it was four years ago. our troops, our supporters, the grassroots are enthusiastic. more so where i w

he is like ross perot. like donald trump without the crazy hair. >> r paul comes the closest to obama. guest: drudge did a screaming headline on the poll. i saw this yesterday. ron paul has been around a long time. he has a feverish following. he raised a million dollars -- i learned his supporters are very supportive. i think that voice, that libertarian voice, questioning the role of government, is a worthy debate to have. a lot of americans believe this. a lot of things were said that wouldn't work in a general election. it is good to have that debate. the ytaley say things the short- shots aren't afraid to talk about. host: we talk about 2012 presidential politics. the republican field. divided by potical affiliation. twitter.com/cpsanwj. craig crawford, of cq rolecall. guest: he used his time to introduce himself. a lot of republicans are flocking to him. the big story was people who aren't there. mitch daniels, newt gingrich. this wasn't a real debate for the real race. when we get to the crux of it -

he is like ross perot. like donald trump without the crazy hair. >> ron paul comes the closest to obama. guest: drudge did a screaming headline on the poll. i saw this yesterday. ron paul has been around a long time. he has a feverish following. he raised a million dollars -- i learned his supporters are very supportive. i think that voice, that libertarian voice, questioning the role of government, is a worthy debate to have. a lot of americans believe this. a lot of things were said that wouldn't work in a general election. it is good to have that debate. the ytaley say things the short- shots aren't afraid to talk about. host: we talk about 2012 presidential politics. the republican field. divided by political affiliation. twitter.com/cpsanwj. craig crawford, of cq rolecall. guest: he used his time to introduce himself. a lot of republicans are flocking to him. the big story was people who aren't there. mitch daniels, newt gingrich. this wasn't a real debate for the real race. when we get to the crux of

countries have that could encourage to us be even more quality oriented and cost first quarter, quoting ross perot, i'm all ears. thank you. i'll take one more. yes, sir. >> [inaudible] >> if i go back to lowering costs, the number of one -- well, there's quite a long list. let me go through one by one. not having states have an open checkbook on the federal account through medicaid. number two, having people buy the insurance they want as opposed to being given a policy that's much more in, some cases, much more expensive than they want or need. that helps bring down the cost. having individuals have personal interest in what the cost is of a procedure they're going to get. think about a health care system like a car. what would happen if an automobile -- you paid a $1,000 deductible to buy a car. that was it. you paid $1,000 and the rest was free. anything else you got above that there was no cost. you paid a deductible and the salesperson was compensated on the more expensive car they've they give you the more they make. so you buy the car and the salesperson gets paid on the more they do. we'd

the good example of how this might work is what ross perot did. he had se of its employees to take him into hostage in iran, he did not go to the federal government and say, attack them and declare war. he got some special forces, retirees, he got in his people and got them out and brought them out. [applause] it this principle had been ingrained in our system and we had used it, we could have paid $500 million or billion dollars to capture the individuals that were responsible. yet we did not do that. that would've been cheap compared to the trillions of dollars involved. not only do i see some of that as a conflict, every time we occupy a country, every time we killed a civilian, civilians get killed, t they get angry at as. what would we do with that happened? we have to go get them. at the taliban is not the al qaeda. the taliban are a group of people who are very determined that they do not want any foreign occupation. that is their religious and politicabelief. we joined them when they were so annoyed with the soviets occupying afghanistan.

caller: i voted for ross perot the first time around, even though i got disaffected by the time of thection. it was more of a protest vote. if a solid candidate emerges, with solid ideas, i would support a third party. republicans, although i agree with them on a lot of issues, i agree they have gotten so mired in to some of their core social issues they are no longer effective in getting some of the more economic and less social issues fixed. guest: you are seeing those frustrations with politicians of all sorts. what was striking after the 2010 election, even the republicans made huge gains, the party's image has not really improved. there had that been a groundswell for the republican, or democratic party, for tha. when you have an economy the way it is, that is part of the problem. host: mclean, va. david on the republican line. caller: you have several callers that call in and say, our children are being indoctrinated. they are communist. c-span should call a live a lie. there was a study from the university of toronto. -- a lie a lie. it put political party is all around the worl

countries have that could encourage to us be even more quality oriented and cost first quarter, quoting ross perot, i'm all ears. thank you. i'll take one more. yes, sir. >> [inaudible] >> if i go back to lowering costs, the number of one -- well, there's quite a long list. let me go through one by one. not having states have an open checkbook on the federal account through medicaid. number two, having people buy the insurance they want as opposed to being given a policy that's much more in, some cases, much more expensive than they want or need. that helps bring down the cost. having individuals have personal interest in what the cost is of a procedure they're going to get. think about a health care system like a car. what would happen if an automobile -- you paid a $1,000 deductible to buy a car. that was it. you paid $1,000 and the rest was free. anything else you got above that there was no cost. you paid a deductible and the salesperson was compensated on the more expensive car they've they give you the more they make. so you buy the car and the salesperson gets paid on the more they do. we'd

straight talk and reminds me of ross perot or donald trump l without the crazy here.paul comes thest closest to president obama that he beats all republicans. >> i know drudge did a screaming headline on that. that does not surprise me but he has been around a long time, he has a feverish following and raised $1 million in one day yesterday and he will be ai factor. if you say anything critical you get a lot of the males but that voice question is the role of government is a word the debate tof have and a lot of things said last night may not work well but it is good to have that debate they talk about things that to that they are afraid to talk about them and it is great for the debate. >>host: we're talking about 2012 presidential politics, in particular the republican field to see how fie it plays out. / political affiliation. craig crawford is here as our guest for crow mr. crawford what did tim pawlenty bring to the table last night? >>guest: he was the most careful because he has the best of that group to get the nomination but he used his time to introduceointr

the people in texas need to look back at the 1990's when ross perot spent his own money.ost: what you mean by that? caller: he tried to figure out what was wrong with the educational system in the state of texas and the nation. people did not listen to him. there are a lot of things. let's tax churches. how does that sound? that sounds about as ridiculous as public education. it is totally ridiculous. host: we go to a democratic collar and new jersey. go-ahead. caller: there would not be a problem with public education give governors were not dipping into the funds to give vouchers to parents to pay for private schools and religious schools. that is my comment. host: bellingham, washington, cathy, the republican line. caller: think the government has no business being in this business of education. i think that we should -- if we're going to fund education, we should do it privately. but the government has no business in education. it's the communist manifesto. host: everyone should pay for their education. caller: if the government wants to pay for it, fine. but they sho

he is like ross perot. like donald trump without the craz >> saying that ron paul comes the closest to president closest to obama. guest: drudge did a screaming headline on the poll. i saw this yesterday. ron paul has been around a long time. he has a feverish following. he raised a million dollars -- i learned his supporters are very supportive. i think that voice, that libertarian voice, questioning the role of government, is a worthy debate to have. a lot of americans believe this. a lot of things were said that wouldn't work in a general election. it is good to have that debate. the ytaley say things the short- shots aren't afraid to talk about. host: we talk about 2012 presidential politics. the republican field. divided by political affiliation. twitter.com/cpsanwj. craig crawford, of cq rolecall. guest: he used his time to introduce himself. a lot of republicans are flocking to him. the big story was people who aren't there. mitch daniels, newt gingrich. this wasn't a real debate for the real race. w

the good example of how this might work is what ross perot did.some of its employees to take him into hostage in iran, he did not go to the federal government and say, attack them and declare war. he got some special forces, retirees, he got in his people and got them out and brought them out. [applause] it this principle had been ingrained in our system and we had used it, we could have paid $500 million or billion dollars to capture the individuals that were responsible. yet we did not do that. that would've been cheap compared to the trillions of dollars involved. not only do i see some of that as a conflict, every time we occupy a country, every time we killed a civilian, civilians get killed, to. they get angry at as. what would we do with that happened? we have to go get them. at the taliban is not the al qaeda. the taliban are a group of people who are very determined that they do not want any foreign occupation. that is their religious and political belief. we joined them when they were so annoyed with the soviets occupying afghanistan. we

he reminded of a ross perot.he's like a donald trump without the crazy hair. >> host: now, there was a poll that cnn released today saying that ron paul comes the closest to president obama. that president obama beats all of the republicans at this point. >> guest: i noticed drudge did a screaming headline, shocker poll. that did surprise me. ron paul has been around a long time. he's got a very feverish following and i understand he raised like a million dollars in one day yesterday. and he will be a factor. i learned by experience his supporters are very supportive. if you say anything critical of ron paul, you get a lot of emails. but, you know, i think that voice, that libertarian voice, really questioning the role of government in just about every arena is a worthy debate to have and a lot of americans believe that. there were a lot of things said last night that probably would not work too well in a general election campaign, but it's good to have that debate. that's why i sort of like these long shots in t

the good example of how this might work is what ross perot did.me of his employees taken into hostage in iran, he did not go to the federal government and say, go in, attack, to declare war. he got special forces, he got his people in there, and got them out and brought them out. if this principle had been and greinke in our system and we used it, we could have a well- paid $500 million or $1 billion to capture the individuals responsible, and yet of course we did not do that. that would have been cheap compared to the trillions of dollars that we are involved in now. only do i see some of that in the conflict and not doing well, every time we occupy a country, every time we killed a civilian, and it continues. when we lot these bombs the pakistan, civilians get killed. the ticket angry at us -- we -- they get angry at us. the taliban is not al qaeda. they are a group of people who are determined that they do not want any foreign occupation. that is their religious and political belief. we joined them when they were so annoyed with the soviets occ

caller: i voted for ross perot the first time around, even though i got disaffected by the time of the election. it was more of a protest vote. if a solid candidate emerges, with solid ideas, i would support a third party. republicans, although i agree with them on a lot of issues, i agree they have gotten so mired in to some of their core social issues they are no longer effective in getting some of the more economic and less social issues fixed. guest: you are seeing those frustrations with politicians of all sorts. what was striking after the 2010 election, even the republicans made huge gains, the party's image has not really improved. there had that been a groundswell for the republican, or democratic party, for tha. when you have an economy the way it is, that is part of the problem. host: mclean, va. david on the republican line. caller: you have several callers that call in and say, our children are being indoctrinated. they are communist. c-span should call a live a lie. there was a study from the university of toronto. -- a lie a lie. it put political party is all around the