you look at people like ross perot and ross perot significantly outperformed in kansas. >> reporter: in fact, independent perot got nearly 27% of the kansas popular vote when he ran for president in 1992. and if you ask paul davis if he's campaigning with his fellow democrats, his answer tells you everything you need to know about his strategy. are there any national democrats that you would like to campaign for you in the next several weeks here in kansas? >> well i'm doing something different. i'm actually campaigning with a lot of republicans. you know governor brownback's bringing in the likes of rick perry and chris christie and what i like to say is he's out campaigning with republican from across the country and i'm out campaigning with republicans from kansas. >> reporter: as in every campaign, the outcome could hinge on the unanticipated. just in the last week, paul davis has had to explain how he was caught up in a police raid at a strip club 16 years ago. and some republicans have begun to hint that senate candidate orman's wall street ties may be as big a problem for him a

wallace, most third-party candidates, like ross perot, who was around here -- who is from around here somewhere won a percentage of votes. most third-party candidates are like perot, their support is distributed throughout the party. 19% of the popular vote equals zero electoral votes because he did not win any states. wallace had a regional base in the deep south in particular in the rest of the south he hoped and the border states. wallace at one time had a very good chance of carrying 15 states with 174 electoral votes. and yes, these were votes for the most part, republicans thought would come out of theirs. even greater concern was that wallace could carry electoral votes and it could be as few as three depending on how close of the republican and democratic nominees were. to deny nixon or humphrey a majority. you have to get more than half of the electoral votes or else the election goes to the house where every state delegation and in the house of representatives cast one vote. that does not happened since 1824. it has never been in a less -- unlikely prospect the 1968. wallace

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that's why i've wondered if some of this boils over to more of a ross perot movement and people go outside the party structures. >> guest: after seeing what happened with ross perot -- >> host: that's what convinces you but if what reform you have to go inside -- >> guest: right. but i will select is the situation where we emphasize party. i just don't think, i mean, i think it's nice to have -- >> host: that's truly going back to the founders. they didn't want parties. some of them. that was the big argument. >> guest: we're all americans. i think we have to be doing things that work for all of us. one of the things that offends me to no end is when we take our constitution and we say, i'm going to enforce this part but not this part. and this group gets indexed -- an exemption but do so does. i can't even tell you how that makes me feel. >> host: let me ask you about the constitutionality. it's sort of like, and franco we just saw a court case go this way. it's the letter of the law, the spirit of the law. >> guest: i think it is the letter and i want a way. first of all it's only 16 of

and you have that with ross perot. i was very much in a similar situation whereas a third-party that killed bush in 19 -- and that's very much the danger. >> host: we talked about the political class. you have been in parliament sends -- >> guest: i'm a writer and historian at work to the bank for 10 years. i've done different things and i think it's quite healthy to have professional politicians. i can see why they have evolved but i think you need to have politicians with one perspective. that was a great strength in the house of commons. the house of commons drew on people from all sort of backgrounds in many ways sega had workers, talking about the mid-20th century. you had people like winston churchill was a german writer and you had people from different walks of life, different professions and i think that added to the diversity and the variety. he didn't just to the same places. people are more specialized. there's a huge culture of being a special adviser or an american case working on the hill and i think tha

there have been some, ross perot, as we all remember. which avenue do you prefer? ns, that miebt an easy answer, 50-state political infrastructure is not easy. there are advantages, because there's a lot of anger at the republican party, which has become extremely right and the democratic party which has not seen as strong as defending working class people. on the other hand it's tough to put together the 50 states a political structure. if you run in the democratic party, you're in the debates, et cetera, et cetera. i don't know yet. >> if you run for the democratic presidential nomination, could you beat hillary clinton? >> look, i don't know that i could. i don't know that i couldn't. this is what i do know. i know that this country faces enormous problems. i know that at a time where we're seeing a huge fleefs productivity, tens of millions of workers are working longer hours for lower wages. highest rate of childhood poverty. 95% of all new income since the wall street crashed. do you know where that's gone, wolf? it's gone to the top 1%. that's not what americ

ross perot once said when eds was doing business with gm, at gm, if there's a problem with snakes, atkes. at gm, you start a committee about snakes, you talk about it for a year. >> i want to get to the ceo of pepsico, number three on the list. she's fascinating in terms of some of her comments on working motherhood. she also released i think one of the most extensive statements on the nfl and domestic violence. >> she did, just this week, yes. another example of where these women are coming right out ahead and leading. pepsi's also a company in the middle of this tremendous innovation or transformation in terms of addressing its menu of food products and trying to stay with the times with concerns about health. >> her comments on working motherhood and also mary barra. they were fascinating. she doesn't think it's necessarily possible to be able to -- >> all of these women wrestle with what anyone in business wrestles with but just, you know, exponentially so. one of the things that's interesting. we have our most powerful women summit every year. last year, we asked on stage, who he