my advice earlier this year is the president should embrace it should give ross perot-type speeches.ad he done that he would have been in a much better position for people to have a stake in the outcome of this election. >> a lot of democrats are looking at the presidential electorate in 2008 and 2012. the democrats have a strong position with minority voters. do you think the democratic party needs to focus on working-class voters? talk about what the democratic party needs to do for that subset of voters. >> the first step is to forget about the idea that we are working with -- that we are dealing with working class voters. they are trying to address the blue-collar democrats particularly in michigan. at that time women were nowhere near in the labor force as they are now. now they are 75% of the labor force, 75% of breadwinners. when you talk about we have to bring in white working-class voters, we are talking about a large growing industries in sales and retail. as long as you don't have an old view of what the working class is. working people includes working women and men over

. >> schieffer: would his father had won reelection, texas billionaire ross perot not entered the race unexpectedly make eight three-way contest with bill clinton. >> i think he would have one. >> schieffer: you do? >> absolutely. and i just can't prove it. this is all conjecture, i think he would have won ultimately there would have been a clear choice between a guy who had very good first term and untested governor. >> schieffer: after the gulf war, your father drove saddam hussein back in to iraq, his rating went to 89%. but then he was defeated in the election. >> from 89 to 39 on the poll that really mattered. >> schieffer: how did that affect you? >> it's an interesting lesson of how to spend political capital. in the book, somewhat dismayed about inability for white house to connect the message to connect with the american people that domestic politics really mattered for george bush as much as international politics. he had a lot of capital to spend. in retrospect it wasn't spent wisely. >> schieffer: you write in the book, when you decided to send troops in to iraq it was not

you had your players come---bloomberg, ross perot, all these guys come in and say -- what if we used statistics? what if we used a baseline of predictability in markets? obviously, when they first came in, these guys were viewed as crazy. that for granted, in terms of being able to look at financial models and predictability in our markets, to a certain extent. and i think what is frustrating in the political and legal system today is it seems so arbitrary. it seems arbitrary what gets on the docket. that who yourrary judges determines the outcome of that case. be able to get the analytics -- i am a litigator. why can't i go see how a judge is ruled in the last 30 years? if i am looking at a piece of legislation, why can't i see how a legislator has voted in the last 15 sessions, or looked at this type of legislation in the last 10 years? i think that establishes some level of predictability, some sort of a baseline in terms of how we look at governments, and how we look at the relationship between government and its systems. it is very similar to the tourist industry. the way we das

you need somebody like ross perot, who has incredible personal resources and can match the major party candidates in terms of visibility -- but that is very rare. states, alaska, maine, where there is a tradition of this, but mostly there is not. >> charlie cook redacting between 5-12 seats for the republicans. what kind of a night will it be for speaker boehner? >> it is how many seats they game. there is a possibility that if they picked up 12 or 13 seats, they would have a bigger majority than any time since back to the 1920's, i think. this is a high water mark. where democrats have been from the beginning is, they were playing defense in the same way democrats in the senate were playing defense. , i do notew weeks know if it is panic on the part of democrats, but concern in states we do not additionally think of being problematic for democrats -- new york, california, illinois. nevada. some of this is due to the fact there is so little attention at the top of the ticket. jerry brown having an easy race in california. no major opponent up in new york. in those places where there is

to read we to between have two party debates here but in 1992 when we had three candidates, one ross perot joined the major party candidates, it made a difference in the dynamics of the debate. the number of people who is there makes a difference. who is asking the questions? is it the public, journalists? you have the opponents asking questions? they are doing more of that in nonpresidential debates and often times in the primary debates. this is also happened in a lot of international debates and it is important in many cultures that the candidates directly connect with one another. what else matters is the context of the campaign. when does the debate take place? in the u.s., they typically want two weeks after the last debate. if there is a major error, candidates want time to clarify that. to talk about it and have the debates more in the distance. whether it is a close race or not makes a difference. this may make a difference as to how many debates summary participates in. an incumbent in a close race is more willing to debate than one who is not. whether it is an incumbent or chall

i voted for ross perot. i just did not trust the guy from the get-go come he proved to be that guy. -- they get go, and he proved to be that guy. that is my comment. guest: thank you. i happen also to be a ross perot fan even though i did not vote for him. i mean bill clinton fan. i'm a bill clinton democrat. he got elected twice. he helped to usher in prosperity. you know, you can be a democrat -- we are a big tent party -- you can be a democrat and be very liberal or a democrat and be centrist. clinical parties that are able to hold long-term majorities and able to come up with the best governing ideas have vigorous debates with both wings of their parties. parties that lose, have the wrong ideas, that cannot sustain majorities, have purity tests where they try to drive one wing out. that is not effective for effective governing or winning sustained majorities. some i want to note breaking news that is i -- the jobs report is out -- they october jobless rate, 5.8%, falling from 5.9% in september. the numbe

if an independent wins in kansas it's hard, there is no ross perot with all of the money but will somebodyout running independent in 2016. if orman wins i think the answer is yes. >> tell me which way these break. iowa. colorado, corey gardner versus mark udall. >> both trending republican. in colorado let me start there. a republicans say the poll the republican pulling away. but they say it's not a one or two-point race. they say it's four or five points. this is a test. in colorado it's latinos. can they get the latinos in adams county to turn out near their 2012 numbers or in 2010 numbers. if the democrats can do that udall has a prayer. republicans say that's trending their way. iowa is a classic, it's yes, it's a blue state and presidential politics but a robot state if you look at registration. bruce braley has been a bad candidate. better at the end than in the beginning but because of those missteps early ernst has run a smart advertising campaign that is a 2-point edge into the final weekend. republicans think they have the wind at their back. again this is a place democrats say

this was hardly a call to arms running against, at that point, ross perot was leading, and bill clinton campaign. and that is very revealing. also, bush 43 talked about his brother, jeb, yesterday at that session. let's see a little bit of that. >> one time, by the way, i heard him say he didn't like the idea of a political class, the idea of bush, clinton, bush, obama troubles him. i said how does this sound? bush, clinton, bush, obama, clinton. the point is, you don't get to pick the environment in which you run. >> so that gets to your point about this built-in advantage that these families have as they decide, as jeb decides whether he wants to run. >> and i think the key thing will be for jeb, too, how much does he want it. he has seen what his family has gone through. he has seen the joy that his grandfather and father felt, indeed at 90. bush sr. said he wished his own grandchildren could have that joy of life that he has had all the time. he knows the glory, has seen the tough side of it. unless it's in your bones to run for president this day, it's really hard. john quincy adam

. >> 1992 ross perot was the first to do the talk show announcement dropping this challenge on larryve. >> if you're that serious, you, the people, you register me in 50 states. >> reporter: paving the way for john mccain on "letterman." >> this is the announcementh)oc proceeding -- >> how do you make me feel? >> reporter: and rand paul on "gma." >> at this moment i'm officially announcing i am a candidate for president. >> reporter: sure, there are still some traditionalists. edwards invoking katrina in new orleans. >> there's so much good to be done out there and together we're going to do it. >> reporter: for obama invoking lincoln and springfield, illinois. >> there is a certain presumptuousness, a certain audacity to this announcement. >> reporter: the one thing not to expect this time around, any mention at all of the word audacity. although plenty will be calling for change. for "this week," david wright, abc news, new york. >> great look back. i should issue the invitation, any candidate who wants to announce here on "gma," we're happy to have you at any time. but let's talk

2016, we have a very important election for this republican and there was a spoiler once named ross perot clinton came in in 92, so it could be a libertarian would emerge who could spoil it for republicans in the presidential race. john: or win the election? dave: like who? it is possible. could rand paul win? john: if he runs as a republican he could win. dave: to you, libertarian? is more of a libertarian that republican? john: more than the other guys and look at this. in north carolina, florida, kansas, illinois, libertarian got 4% or 5% of the vote and was 2% but the exit polls show we took equally from democrats. dave: do you think libertarians are happy with the results of the election because the republican establishment -- john: we are more happy, we never win. dave: mcconnell in the senate, john boehner is staying in the house, he is an establishment, chris christie sort of a liberal republican was responsible for 32 governors taking over the state houses. the establishment wonn the libertarians, a new group of republicans as we are going to cut. john: we are optimistic. dave: w

i voted for ross perot. i just did not trust the guy from the get-go come he proved to be that guy. -- they get go, and he proved to be that guy. that is my comment. guest: thank you. i happen also to be a ross perot fan even though i did not vote for him. i mean bill clinton fan. i'm a bill clinton democrat. he got elected twice. he helped to usher in prosperity. you know, you can be a democrat -- we are a big tent party -- you can be a democrat and be very liberal or a democrat and be centrist. clinical parties that are able to hold long-term majorities and able to come up with the best governing ideas have vigorous debates with both wings of their parties. parties that lose, have the wrong ideas, that cannot sustain majorities, have purity tests where they try to drive one wing out. that is not effective for effective governing or winning sustained majorities. some i want to note breaking news that is i -- the jobs report is out -- they october jobless rate, 5.8%, falling from 5.9% in september. the numbe

and because ross perot ran and republicans felt he messed up the election, george bush senior should have won re-election. clinton had a cloud to begin with. bush, of course, had the problem of florida and bush v. gore which was problematic. obama i think the problem may have to do with the kind of persistence of racism in american political culture and other factors. in any case, it seems to be the last few presidents have had serious issues maintaining the legitimacy of their elections. and i think the very way in which our elections are conducted with red states, blue states and battleground states has complicated that. it taught us to think about the election of a president as an exercise in a political map where the big majority state goes to one side or the other and there is between an eight or dozen or 15 battleground states contested. the idea we contest on a state by state basis is -- it might be the presidency would be a legitimate institution with less controversy if it was elections by a national popular. i would get rid of life tenure for supreme court justices. maybe n

to read we to between have two party debates here but in 1992 when we had three candidates, one ross perot joined the major party candidates, it made a difference in the dynamics of the debate. the number of people who is there makes a difference. who is asking the questions? is it the public, journalists? you have the opponents asking questions? they are doing more of that in nonpresidential debates and often times in the primary debates. this is also happened in a lot of international debates and it is important in many cultures that the candidates directly connect with one another. what else matters is the context of the campaign. when does the debate take place? in the u.s., they typically want two weeks after the last debate. error,e is a major candidates want time to clarify that. to talk about it and have the debates more in the distance. whether it is a close race or not makes a difference. this may make a difference as to how many debates summary participates in. an incumbent in a close race is more willing to debate than one who is not. whether it is an incumbent or challenger an

just as he stood up like clinton and he said tim to debate ross perot he is not.ntasy you all have a fit to see about barack obama. he was a savior. but it did not work out. [laughter] [applause] spec now he sounds like the college republicans and at the cocktail party. [laughter] [applause] by the way i have a suggestion for you a new book is called american is retreat it is wonderfully written all the things you look for in a good work of fiction. [laughter] i suggest to the get the next long beach vacation but foreign policy surely is about rebuilding america and strings. the only way the united states can play the role we wanted to play is to be fundamentally strong but the three large industrial blocks and coordination with the federal reserve with the fiscal response that the banks were given a stress test. it is the strongest economy ask any economist in the world with the performance of those three and it is clear because of public policy it comes out of the global financial crisis where the obama administration does deserve some credit with jet europe tha

he sent him to debate what's his name, ross perot on the giant sucking sound. he has not. he has simply not -- >> he has been -- >> we have this fantasy, you all have this fantasy about barack obama. he was the savior. he was a jesus. you have the feeling. but it didn't work out. >> brett -- >> brett is now sounding like the college republican at the cocktail party that you're trying to move away from. look, i wanted to -- by the way, since we're at it, i haven't mentioned this, but i have a reading suggestion for you if you're enjoying this debate. brett has a book out, american retreat, the new isolationism in the coming disorder. wonderfully written, vivid. it has all the things you look for in a good work of fiction. i really suggest -- i really suggest that you pick it up on your next long beach vacation. but what i was going to actually say is this, let's try to broaden this topic out one beat, which is foreign policy surely is also about rebuilding american strength because i think all of us would agree, the only way the united states can play the pivotal role that

you need someone like ross perot that has incredible personal theurces and can match major party candidates in terms of visibility. that is very rare. you have alaska, maine where it said -- when there is a tradition. >> there is a possibility if there is a chance of going back to the 20th. this is the high water mark right now for republicans. i think where the democrats have been from the very beginning, they were playing defense in the same way democrats in the senate were. what seemed to happen in the past few weeks is i don't know if it is panic that concern on the part of democrats in states we do not traditionally think of being problematic for democrats, new york, california, illinois. some of this is nirvana. jerry brown having a very easy race from california. places where there is not the localization from the campaign, the senate race there to get the turnout that you will see democrats losing in district they should be winning or woodwind in a presidential year. >> after the 2000 wealth 2012 we -- after frequently talk about the gender gap. what group of voters would we talk ab

we typically have two-party debates here, but in 1992, when we had three candidates, when ross perot joined the major party candidates, it made a real difference in the dynamics of the debates. the number of people there makes a difference. who's asking the questions. is it journalists? is it the public? do you have experts? and do you have the opponents asking questions? and one of the debates i'll show you a brief clip from, they are doing more of that in non-presidential type of debates. and oftentimes in the primary debates for the u.s. president. but this has also happened in a lot of international debates. and it's important in many cultures that the candidates actually do directly connect with one another. what else matters is the context of the campaign. when does the debate take place. in the u.s., they typically want two weeks after the last debate. and that's usually the way the timing works. because if there is a major error, the candidates want time to clarify that, to go out and deal with it, to talk about it, and to have the debates a little more in the distance. wheth

just site me the speech where he stood up as clinton did or al gore sentence al gore to debate ross perotn the giant sucking sound. he has not. we have this fantasy. you all have this fantasy about barack obama. he was the savior. he was a jesus. you have the feeling. but it didn't work out [applause.] >> now sounds like the party you are trying to move away from. it look, i want to -- by the way, since we are at it, i haven't mentioned this, but i have i have a reading suggestion to you if you are enjoying this debate. brett has a new book out called "america in retreat: the new isolationism" wonderfuly written, vivid, all of the things you look for in a good book of fiction. i really suggest -- i really suggest you pick it up on your next long beach vacation. but what i was going to actually say is let's try to broad en this topic out one beat, which is foreign policy surely is also about rebuilding american strength because i think all of us would agree the only way the united states can play the pivotal role that we want it to play is for it to be fundamentally strong at home, particu

me the speech where he stood up as clinton did or al gore, who sent to debate what's his name, ross perothe great sucking sound. you all had this fantasy about barack obama. he was the savior, the was a jesus. you had the feeling but it didn't work out! [applause] sbret now brett -- sounding like the college republican at the cocktail party that you are trying to move away from. [applause] >> i wanted to, by the way, since we're at it, i haven't mentioned this but i have a reading discussion -- suggestion to you if you are enjoying this debate. brett has a new book out, "american retreat, the new isolationism and the coming world disorder." it's wonderful, it has all the things you look for in a good work of fiction. i really suggest that you pick it up on your next long beach vacation. but what i was going to actually say, let's try to broaden this topic out one beat, which is foreign policy surely is also about rebuilding american strengths i think all of us would agreet only way the united states can play the pivotal role we want it to may is to be fundamentally strong at home, particu

you need somebody like ross perot, who has incredible personal resources and can match the major party candidates in terms of visibility -- but that is very rare. you have quirky states, alaska, maine, where there is a tradition of this, but mostly there is not. >> charlie cook predicting between 5-12 seats for the republicans. what kind of a night will it be for speaker boehner? >> the question is how many seats they gain. there is a possibility that if they picked up 12 or 13 seats, they would have a bigger majority than any time since back to the 1920's, i think. this is a high water mark. where democrats have been from the beginning is, they were playing defense in the same way democrats in the senate were playing defense. what seems to have happened in the last few weeks, i do not know if it is panic on the part of democrats, but concern in states we do not additionally -- traditionally being problematic for democrats -- new york, california, llinois. nevada. some of this is due to the fact there is so little attention at the top of the ticket. jerry brown having an easy race in c

ross perot was a columnist and david post, contributor at the volokh conspiracy and "washington post".com. all of these have a lot of expertise, topics from a lot of different angles, which is sort of how i wanted to start off today. one of the most interesting games today about the hack of celebrity photos is that raises a lot of different issues for a lot of different people. as a cybersecurity reporter, i covered in terms of password security on the cloud and at the technical aspects of the hack might've been in with the dark web would do at these pictures. a reasonable number of conversations from misogyny on the internet to what actually is the nature of the crime that occurred on the whether you look at it from a perspective of jennifer lawrence as a sex crime, is there a first amendment issue here and expect we will touch on most different takeaways today. how i wold like to begin visit each of the panelists go down, and what for them is the one or two big takeaways from when this occurred in sort of burst into the news in how they sort of saw the issue has been the most import

but the only reason bill clinton won in kentucky was because ross perot was in the race.th and also the 1990s was a long time ago. it was another era. there weren't many conservative democrats left. the party has become so liberal that it's left most conservative democrats in the south. so i don't know. i don't think there is such a clinton caceh as there once was. >> but you know what? when you came out with that list on election night, there were a number of people who said that makes it official, rand paul is taking a shot at hillary clinton, he's running for president. >> well, she is seen as the leader in her party and the potential leader in their nominating process. i think it's a mistake to let someone -- i'm not talking about whether i'm running, but to let someone run unopposed. in the past we haven't gone after the opposing party's nominee to say who they are and what they represent. i think she is going to try to say oh, i'm different than president obama. he's very unpopular. but i have different policies. she was part of his administration and i really don't

from 1991 i had a quote from ross perot in it. >> that makes me very sad, that you had a yearbook inthe past and republicans in the past, but i think the two-party system isn't work for us, and the only way to challenge washington is to challenge the system. >> andrea. >> a lot of people would agree with that, andrea. i get that, a pox on both their houses, but there's so much ideological differences. how can you not know if you're in favor of obamacare or in favor of repealing obamacare? there are too many differences between senate republicans and senate democrats to say i'll decide after the election? >> again, i think if you look at my stances on the issues, we've been clear about a lot of things, and in some cases i agree more with the republican position on issues, and in other cases i agree more with democratic issues. >> before we go, greg, might you caucus with republicans? is there a possibility? >> you know, i've said from the beginni beginning, will caucus with whatever party wants to solve problems. if we are the deciding vote, the swing vote, i think that's a great oppo

lindbergh, ross perot, all these guys come in and say, well, wait, hold on one second, what if we establishedbaseline of predictability in our markets? obviously, when they first came in, all these guys said you guys are crazy, therest no way you can -- there's no way you you co that, and today we take it for granted in terms of being able to look at financial models and predictability in our markets to a certain extent. and i think what's frustrating in the political and legal system today is it seems arbitrary what gets on the docket, it seems arbitrary, you know, who your judge determines the outcome of that case, and being able to get the analytics around, well, okay, if i'm a litigator, why can't i just go to a courtroom in the last 30 years, or why can't i see how a legislator has voted in the last 15 sessions or how this legislature has looked at this type of issue in the last ten years? i think that establishes some level of predictability and some sort of a baseline in terms of how we look at government and how we look at the relationship between government and its citizens. and it's