up next a look at the 1992 came of in dependent candidate ross perot. he finished third in the general election with 19% of the vote. bill clinton won the presidency defeating george h.w. bush. we begin with mr. perot in austin texas. earlier in the year he said he could run if supporters received the number of signatures. this is about ten minutes. [ cheering and applause ] >> thank you. thank you. you are so enthusiastic. it is wonderful. we have a memento here from the grassroots movement of texas that we would like to present to mr. perot now on behalf of all of you who have worked so hard. and let me read the encryption to him and to those of you who have not had a chance to see this. we, the people of texas, join the millions of fellow americans who by our volunteer efforts have secured an overwhelming number of signatures to place the name ross perot on the presidential ballot of the great state of texas. we congratulate you and wish you the best of luck in your bid for the presidency of the united states and we will do our utmost to continue our

up next, a look at 1992 campaign of independent candidate ross perot. he finished third in the general election with 19% of the vote. democrat bill clinton won the presidency that year defeating a republican incoumbent president george h.w bush. we begin in texas in may of 1992. earlier in the year he said he would run for president if reporters got his name on the ballot in all 50 states. at this rally he announced he exceeded the number of signatures needed to place his name on the ballot in his home state. this is about 10 minutes. chaups chaus [ cheers and applause ]s [ cheers and applause ][ cheers] >> thank you. thank you. you are so enthusiastic. it's wonderful. we had a momento here from texas that we would like to present to mr. pe row now on behalf of all of you who have worked so hard. and let me read the inscription to him and to you who have not had the chance it see this. we, the people of texas, join the millions of fellow americans who brought our volunteers efforts to secure an overwhelming number of signatures to pledge the name ross p

up next a look at the 1992 came of in dependent candidate ross perot. he finished third in the general election with 19% of the vote. bill clinton won the presidency defeating george h.w. bush. we begin with mr. perot in austin texas. earlier in the year he said he could run if supporters received the number of signatures. this is about ten minutes. [ cheering and applause ] >> thank you. thank you. you are so enthusiastic. it is wonderful. we have a memento here from the grassroots movement of texas that we would like to present to mr. perot now on behalf of all of you who have worked so hard. and let me read the encryption to him and to those of you who have not had a chance to see this. we, the people of texas, join the millions of fellow americans who by our volunteer efforts have secured an overwhelming number of signatures to place the name ross perot on the presidential ballot of the great state of texas. we congratulate you and wish you the best of luck in your bid for the presidency of the united states and we will do our utmost to continue our

ross perot, extraordinary man. a word used in a popular biographical article on ross by his recent director of communication jim squires, this is on the newsstands now -- a good man, a selfless man. these adjectives come from the heart. sibbel has known him for 23-plus years and ever since i got off the plane from hanoi in 1973. the toast of american modern-age technology and entrepreneurship, a public education authority, on stanford campus yesterday i was stopped by the chairman of the education department and that department does not train teachers so much as they are into the theory of education and he said, you're having quite a life. i've been there 12 years. i know faculty well. he said, you know, i've read the reports of mr. perot's work both in his preschool experience in 1968 and the work with the high schools later. and he said, he really has some original approaches. he said, it's not a teacher-bashing operation. he sat there for four months in those classrooms and asked questions and talked to the stud

ross perot, extraordinary man. a word used in a popular biographical article on ross by his recent director of communication jim squires, this is on the newsstands now -- a good man, a selfless man. these adjectives come from the heart. sibbel has known him for 23-plus years and ever since i got off the plane from hanoi in 1973. the toast of american modern-age technology and entrepreneurship, a public education authority, on stanford campus yesterday i was stopped by the chairman of the education department and that department does not train teachers so much as they are into the theory of education and he said, you're having quite a life. i've been there 12 years. i know faculty well. he said, you know, i've read the reports of mr. perot's work both in his preschool experience in 1968 and the work with the high schools later. and he said, he really has some original approaches. he said, it's not a teacher-bashing operation. he sat there for four months in those classrooms and asked questions and talked to the stud

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ross perot, extraordinary man. a word used in a popular biographical article on ross by his recent director of communication jim squires, this is on the newsstands now -- a good man, a selfless man. these adjectives come from the heart. sibbel has known him for 23-plus years and ever since i got off the plane from hanoi in 1973. the toast of american modern-age technology and entrepreneurship, a public education authority, on stanford campus yesterday i was stopped by the chairman of the education department and that department does not train teachers so much as they are into the theory of education and he said, you're having quite a life. i've been there 12 years. i know faculty well. he said, you know, i've read the reports of mr. perot's work both in his preschool experience in 1968 and the work with the high schools later. and he said, he really has some original approaches. he said, it's not a teacher-bashing operation. he sat there for four months in those classrooms and asked questions and talked to the stud

the reality is the libertarian candidate hasn't really been that important since ross perot. i don't think they see it as a threat. i think they see the race as very much a republican/democratic race and the real threat would be another conservative rising out of nowhere. somebody who has a little more recognition. >> the press conference, today, you have watched as long as as closely as any reporter how donald trump treats the media. was today different in the way he behaved or more of how it goes? >> i think we haven't seen a press concerns that contentious for six, seven months since back in the muslim ban days when i was being called little katy. in this press conference today he was angry. he was angry he was being forced to tell the public who he raised money for veterans for. he was angry he was being questioned and what's so surprising is this is a such a positive story for him. this is not a negative story that he needs to spin. i've raised this money. it was a few hiccups along the way, but here it is. a bunch of cash and it's good for the campaign and my public rel

and the reality is the libertarian candidate hasn't in that important since ross perot.hink they see it as an imminent threat. verynk they see the race much as a republican and democratic race and the real threat would another conservative rising out of nowhere. somebody with more recognizability -- recognition -- i'm losing my words. mark: you have watched as long and as closely as any reporter how donald trump treats the media. he today differ in the way behaved or just more of how it goes? katie: we haven't seen a press conference that contentious for six months -- back in the days when i was being called little katie. he's being backed off a little bit, but the press conference today, he was angry you is angry he washe was being questioned and what is those of rising here is that it is such a surprising dory. it's not a negative story. -- i raise this money and there were a few hiccups along the way. it's good for the campaign and good for my appearance of supporting veterans. instead, it was very hostile and thatit up and delete clear a donald trump white house woul

# 0s again, we're talking about trump and bringing um clinton stories, we're now talking about ross perotis not actually that unusual a situation in american politics, not to cover it at all would be as bizarre as to overcover it. i very much doubt that there will be newsrooms that give all three candidates equal coverage, but i imagine that there will be a lot of interest. >> michael, julie, jonathan, great talking to you all this morning. >>> up next, the role of race and racism in support for the trump campaign. why do so many journalists have a hard time talking about it? we'll talk about that next. how does rock and roll work? ♪ you need a team... ♪ working together... ♪ doing all kinds of jobs. ♪ and the best place to find the job that's right for you is on the world's number-one job site. indeed. how the world works. "daddy doing work",d it's funny that i've been in the news for being a dad. windows 10 is great because i need to keep organized. school, grocery shopping. my face can unlock this computer. that's crazy. macbooks are not able to do that. "hey cortana, remind me we have

could he be a spoiler to trump in the general election like ross perot in 1992. >> i don't think so.look at the power that wanted ross perot to be president they were folks looking for an outsider. when you look at the libertarian party, many things they say don't align with what conservatives want and gary johnson is not one that goes for it. only reason we are giving him attention right now or the libertarians is because you have folks not happy with either candidate but the number is minor and not to be a worry for anyone. >> is it minors. we know the unfavorables for both trump and clinton outweigh favorables. >> 44% of people polled recently said they could consider a third party. that's not an insignificant number. so one thing i agree on, the more people know who care johnson is, i don't think he has a main stream appeal. but there are a lot of folks looking for an alternative. they do not like donald trump. they do not like hillary clinton. an ap poll came out that 13% of people polled are proud of the election process this year. i mean, people are not they are angry. and vot

that's what ross perot proved in 1992.s ticket does better with less attention, rather than more. as they get more exposure for the specifics of their idea as opposed to being a none of the above candidate, i think their support would narrow rather than widen. the one concern, the year it may be more concerning for democrats, their ability to appeal to young people on their socially liberal ideas, particularly the legalization of marijuana. >> johnson and his potential running mate, bill weld, do you think that this candidacy, the two of them will pull the votes from trump when you take a look at these two as republicans? this is something they are using to put that out there as more appealing potentially? >> that's exactly right. at a time when even though we are seeing more republicans in the quote, unquote establishment trying to find a way to get xlo close to donald trump and more accepting of donald trump, i do think that over time, you are going to see more and more republican leaders have to get behind him because t

let's remember ross perot, mr. romney. see what happened when ross perot ran? that's what will happen this time. you guys want hillary clinton as president? then have a third candidate. >> ike trying to understand the logic behind the push for the third-party candidate and one says the candidate doesn't have to win but deny anyone from, if i understand this logic, getting the 270 electoral votes necessary to be president and then it's thrown into congress, and there you have presumably a republican house that would err on the side of in this case not mr. trump but whoever the third-party candidate is. i think i have that thinking right. what do you think of that? >> i think it's nuts, and i tell you something, i'm very well off and have been lucky but i think of myself as a common guy. i can talk to anybody, be with anybody, and donald trump is that way, and i think that the people who are -- think of themselves are better than the rest of us, better get onboard because it's going to be too late if they try get behind a third candidate. >> do you worry that the

ross perot against daddy bush. if perot might have been a different candidate.hat was a change election. this may be a change election. we've got two terms of a president that basically most republicans don't like and equally as important as a lot of americans who don't think he's been a good president and they don't want a third term. >> there was an interesting moment that we caught of bill clinton where he says this election is going to come down to who's the best change agent. >> that's the truth. >> wow. >> that's not good for her. if they want change and the voters have said they want that more than they want electability in their candidate could you think of a worse person to run than hillary clinton many. >> let me just describe two things. i try to describe in words. if i say to you at this table donald trump is a decision maker been a decision maker all of his life, he's a tough guy who survived the toughest industry? new york. survived on the top. hillary is a staffer, could do the good policy but you could see her at the chairman of the congressional

ross perot brought his own checkbook to the table. not clear who would do thahi >> in your paper this morning, you say donald trump doesn't have enough ready money. where does this leave his campaign? >> look, he's going to have to raise money. he said that himself. our story estimated his annual income at $160 million. he says his net worth is $10 billion. he would have to sell properties or take on debt to finance a campaign. he's moved past that and said i'm going raise money. we'll see how much he can raise. i think the idea of a self-financing general election campaign has passed. >> good to see you. thank you very much. >> thanks. >>> in our next hour, we'll talk with the two "new york times" reporters who wrote about donald trump's treatment of women. michael barbaro and megan twohey. >>> democrats will hold primaries tomorrow in oregon and kentucky. bernie sanders has won the last two contested primaries and is expected to win at least one more tomorrow. hillary clinton is now trying to stop this momentum in kentucky. nancy co

let's remember ross perot, mr. romney. remember what happened with ross perot?hat will happen this time. neil: i think that that is an opinion shared i'd nonetheless fan pat buchanan. a great author as well. nice guy as well. pat, what do you think? go ahead. go ahead. you are stealing your own fate. >> i do not understand why governor romney was his candidate for the republican party in 2012. why he would engage is the certain result in which to elect hillary rodham clinton. president of the united states. give her three, maybe for four appointments to the supreme court and make obamacare forever. that would be the result of running a candidate, like, say, senator from the brass cuff although he has turned it down or any credible conservative on a third-party line. neil: i agree. the rationale for this is, i hope i got it right, third-party candidate, whoever he or she is, if they ever get that far, so many are turning it down, even mark cuban turns it down, but, it would rob potential, potentially, not getting on all the state ballots in taxes, it would rob a

let me go back to 1992 when ross perot got 19% of the vote out. there but he denied the presidency to george h.w. bush. most political scientists will look at that 92 race and say if ross perot was not in that race, george h.w. bush would have won re-election. the point is that i think a lot of conservatives are saying you know what? this third party candidate most lickly will not win the white house. it's impossible. but this person could deny donald trump the presidency. again, it's much more in the interest of some social conservatives out there. >> and also the risk on their part of being the one to say hey you're the one that said yes and you're the one that put a democrat or even hillary clinton in the white house. >> but that candidate will be much better than a donald trump in some people's minds. >> to both of you, as always, thank you. >> thank you. >> up next, a look at where advocates have slowly warming up to donald trump. i'm terrible at golf. he is. people say i'm getting better. no one's ever saidhat. but i'd like to keep being ter

eastern with a ross perot campaign rally in texas from 1992. garry hart's 1987 campaign announcement and just before 10:00 p.m. a look at the 1968 campaign in the u.s. information agency film "a private decision." we wrap up the night with campaign ads from richard nixon, and robert kennedy. american history tv in prime time beginning at 8:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span3. >>> tonight on c-span3 we mark the 40th anniversary of the church committee's final report on the government intelligence committee. first former committee members look into covert operations. the brennan center for justice if washington, d.c. hosted this event last year. this is american history tv on c-span3. >>> good morning, everyone. thank you so much for coming. my name is mike german, a fellow with the brennan center for justice at the new york law school. i welcome you to strengthen oversight. this year marks 40th anniversary of the creation of senate select committee to study governmental operations with respect to intelligence activities, more simply known as church

go back and look at how ross perot did it, it takes a lot of money, had it. kids to sign maegs paethe p. >> in most states the two parties are in collusion to make it impossible to get third parties on the ball lot. deadline monday in texas which has the highest requirements. there's not going to be a third party person on the ballot in texas because they're going to miss the tdeadline. this is not an effort to win, this is an effort so conser conservatives who don't like trump and will never vote for hillary, an option. ben sass conservatives like, to step forward and do that is a huge, huge headache. you have to raise a quarter of a billion dollars perhaps to get on the ballot in the other states. >> i'm skeptical. i don't think sass will do it. >> sass threw his name out there but buried in that was a comment he has little kids and doesn have the time. >> there is already a third party candidate, gary johnson, former two-term governor of new mexico. >> the libertarian. >> you think the republican party is in civil war, the libertarians. >> the libertarians

the last time an actual independent ran was ross perot in 1992.illion votes, less than 20% of the vote. he won no states. didn't even come close. the time before that was 1912. and susan is right. they've got to get this weld/johnson ticket has to get even above 15% for them to even be viable. and then they're both former republican governors. i don't see them peeling that much off from the democrats, even though secretary clinton remains somewhat unpopular. when you walk into that voting booth, you'll vote for someone or against someone. donald trump, there's a lot to vote against. >> we talk about the ticket. the libertarians put up two former two-term governors. this is a solid, credible ticket. we'll see who hillary clinton picks. donald trump, this is the big question now. who does he turn to to fill out that ticket? >> a lot of people are talking about newt gingrich or senator corker. he may do something to surprise us and go with former senator scott brown from massachusetts. he's now in new hampshire. he was the first senator, current or f

this could be the fufr time since ross perot that a third party candidate could have a real impact onion. you just spoke to the party's chair. tell us what that conversation was. what are the takeaways? >> good morning, kristen. with both the republican n democrde and democratic parties, it shows this could be a big year for the libertarian party. 43% said they'd consider a third party candidate. the libertarian front-runner is polling at 10%. here at the libertarian convention where they'll puck the pick their nominee, an increase in membership, fund-raising has gone up. google searches yet another indicator. and here's what could be a really big game changer. the koch brothers, deep-pocketed, generally republican but libertarian leading. i spoke to the chair of the libertarian party and pressed him on whether the koch brothers could come to the table. >> i have not talked to them directly, but i think they're smart businessmen who have seen what the return on investment is for a political investment in the old parties. and it's not that good. with the lib taertarian party y have the

look at ross perot. jay that's true. -- >> that's true. as you were talking -- >> did you see trump's response? he told him to wait 16 jeers -- 16 years which makes me think he doesn't know -- >> he is saying -- he said or they can wait 16. he doesn't know how long a term is. they can wait as long as they want. i didn't see the first part and i i was confused. he won indiana and he is still winning states. he will be pulling hillary to the left where she doesn't want to go. >> she is in a progressive straight jacket and bernie will keep her there. how will she move to the center? you saw what she had to say about the coal miner. she will say whatever she needs to say. where it is not a gad place to be is the general because then you have trump on trade and the war which i disagree with him. those are things that appeal in someway to the center and center left in ways bernie taped into. he does have an unnatural conspiracy. >> the important thing is there is ben carson on the case. he is the only one who said maybe this brain surgery is not

archival coverage of presidential races between ross perot, jerry hart, and mike wallace. president obama let up today's white house briefing with comments about the latest unemployment numbers with the labor department reporting this morning that the u.s. added 160,000 jobs in april. government data shows this morning the weakest pace of hiring in seven months. the unemployment rate did hold at 5%. here is a look at the president's comments from this afternoon. >> good afternoon. in april, our economy lost nearly 700,000 jobs. seven years later, in april 2016, our economy added 160,000 new jobs. that makes april the 74th consecutive month of private-sector job growth in america. over that record streak of job growth, our businesses have created 14.6 million new jobs in all. wages have been rising at an annual rate of more than 3% this year, so the unemployment rate is growing, unemployment has been falling, and wages have been rising. economy, as many people are aware, is not growing as fast as it should be. sing lacking growth in europe, japan, and now china. here in the

thet: this reminds me of relationship between the bush family and ross perot. he does not like them and they do not like him. ideological,l, temperamental, whatever you want to call it. relationshipe between donald trump and the bushes, it is much the same way. ofy do not have a history good relations. in this context, the bush family feels very strongly about a few things. the senior bush and barbara bush, all of them feel trump belittled their son and brother, teb bush, calling him jeb ligh and energy impaired, low energy jeb. understandably -- the bush's are understandably not. feel donald trump is probably a little too far out of the republican mainstream. it is just a lot of things. good positive history between all of them. i know in president george w. .ush's case, he is still angry in 2008, trump said he thought ifwould be a wonderful thing house speaker nancy pelosi and the democrats decided to impeach george w. bush. thingsre the sorts of presidents do not forget. thrilled that trump in the same interview said bush 43 was probably the worst president

with ross perot. and it got a democrat elected. that is what is concerning me. if we run a third-party, we may very well and of getting hillary and office. in office. the second thing that concerns me is this in choir that hillary is talking about. it is an investigation. the fbi does investigations. not inquiries. i'm concerned, and i haven't heard any news media, what is in the works. -- is hillary has lied. is there a presidential party possibly in the works to exempt her before she gets in office? is that possible? let me just ask you about timelines. host: do you have any sense of when the justice department will indict her? guest: i do not. reporting on that is often difficult. it is a black rocks. it is a lot like the supreme court, there's only so far you can go. there has been some great reporting on both institutions of course in the past decades. as a reporter when these investigations are going on, it is just not a normal reporting process. we've heard a lot of speculation . i can't sit here and tell you exactly what the fbi's going to do. i have bee

ross perot brought his own checkbook to the table. it's not clear who will do that this time. >> in your paper you say donald trump doesn't have enough ready money so to speak. where does that leave this campaign? >> he's going to have to raise money. he said that himself. his annual income is about $160 million. his net worth is $10 billion. but the gap is he'd probably have to sell properties or take out debt to finance a campaign on his own. he's already moved past that. he said i'm going to raise money. we'll see how much money he can raise. i think the idea of a self-financing general election campaign has already passed. >> gerald sooeeib, thank you so much. we'll talk with the two "new york times" reporters about the treatment of women. >>> democrats will hold primaries in kentucky. bernie sanders won the last two contested primaries and is expected to win at least one more tomorrow. hillary clinton is now trying to stop his momentum in kentucky. nancy cordes is in lexington where she will hold a rally tonight. nancy, good morn

>> fit causes a rush to trump -- when ross perot dropped out of the race when clinton ran. all of a sudden he surged ahead. bush was shocked. that could be the jolt that jumps trump ahead of clinton. if that happens, watch for wall street to then assess what trump is about and they may find it to be more favorable than the establishment is telling them. he wants to cut taxes. it's going to be good. charles: at home you don't want to miss our new business show on fox business. jamie dinan. he's the ceo. >> you have information, you worked hard, you made read more documents and made more phone calls. now machines read the documents much faster than you do. lastly, i think as the bar goes higher, you need a higher skill set. 20 years ago you could be an average investor and do well. today you have to be a world class investor to do well. charles: today's egyptair contractors comes among terror fears in egypt and europe. we'll have an update for you in 3 minutes. recently, a 1954 mercedes-benz grand prix race car made history when it sold for a record price of just under $30 mi

how did it go for ross perot. donald trump won fair and square. there were 17 candidates.y are acting like sore losers. >> they are not putting the interests of the nation first. you are putting the interest of ideology and your party first. >> i could counter where it would be good -- you have a significant percentage of republicans saying they will stay home or vote for hillary. the stay home should worry all of us. and that would emperil the house and senate. if we could get a conservative third party candidate, mark kirk, rob portman. charles: that' that's preresumps on your part. >> because i like you, kevin. i'll reserve a seat on the trump train for you right next to me. charles: you have got six months to turn this guy. don't this "mornings with maria." she'll talk to donald trump monday 7:00 a.m. right here on fox business. the f.b.i. reportedly interviewed huma abedin and now they are expected to set a date to interview the democratic frontrunner herself. we have the latest details for you on that next. charles: the f.b.i., they have interviewed top hillary clint

yet ross perot got 19% of the vote.can cause dan to trump or the democratic nominee. >> it's a terrible cycle to make political predictions. among democratic voters the argument is hillary clinton is too much of the political machine. if you listen to gary johnson. anti-war, legalization of drugs. it sounds like what's going on on a college campus than a vfw post. adam: are they just afraid to admit they are democrats or republicans? >> i think they are weird. i have a lot of respect for gary johnson and bill weld. they have 30 years combined executive experience between them. and we have seen that experience is meaningful to voter. but we know authenticity is even more meaningful. and a pushback for the potential. they have gotten 1%. you bring up nato. ralph nader hurt us in 2000. and johnson is getting 10%. we have polls an independent candidate would get 20%. and mitt romney would get 10%. adam: who get emotional about johnson or his team? people vote emotion. who get emotional about these two guys. >> absolutely no

all of us remember ross perot. ross perot got 19% of the vote in 1992. it elected bill clinton.96, ross perot's 9% of the vote was the difference between clinton and dole. maria: right. >> and don't think that that isn't accurate because in 1996 the vast majority of, overwhelming of perot voters for president voted house and senate. these people normally would be with us. a third party, every liberal democrat i know is worn out two sets of knee pads down on their knees praying for third party candidate. that will insure hillary clinton's victory. maria: you would think so. guy benson is here. ii want to get your take. john kasich said if you do a they are party it won't be me. watch this. >> i had a phone call someone wanted me to consider running a 30 party candidate. >> are you considering running? >> no, i'm not going to do that. >> why? >> well i think i gave it my best where i am. i just think running third party doesn't feel right. i think it's not constructive. maria: fascinating. so you don't think we'll see a third party candidate then, or do you, even though it's a vot

. >> i would say that it includes, if you will, the h ross perot and pat buchanan voters.hey are not all republicans or even independent. when you look at west virginia democrats, there is no question at all, they are angry at this administration destroying their economic safety and no alternative. many people are looking for those who do something. they believe enough that they are willing to shake-up the status quo. donald trump is saying many of the same things that you or i or others might have said in the past. but people know that we have been saying it and not getting it done. here's somebody who is willing to get down and force it to happen with the support of republicans and the opposition of democrats, but the support of an american people who is a broader audience than we have seen under the nominees of our party. >> my grandmother said it's not what you say, but how you say it. how donald trump is saying things. congressman, i appreciate you joining us. >> thank you. >> a win for bernie sanders tuesday wouldn't put him ahead of hillary clinton in the overall ra

the most successful independent candidate in recent history was ross perot in 1992, garnered 19% of populart win a single electoral vote. michael bloomberg, two months ago decided high could not win as an independent, two months ago, he is far better known and regarded than any of the politicos whose names have been suggested in texas independents can no longer register to get on ballot there that deadline a week ago, what does that say about those fools who may still be seeking out tools to serve their perverted vision? and rnc chair reince priebus just yesterday warned them all a third party run against trump would be quote, a suicide mission. but his warning has no effect on bill crystal and mitt romney, who personally reached out to john kasich. and two year freshman senator. 92 ver over weekend, sass was punch slapped by republican delegates of nebraska state convention, passing a revolution that reprimanded benedict sass and his call for a third party, described 400 to 8 overwhelming by any standard. and for presumption nominee himself, trump has his own idea for a third party tweetin

ross perot got 19%, that's what the third party recruitment efforts would be looking like presumably, it's just siphoning off a bunch and having probably the democrat win the general with weird low number of popular votes. >> i'm okay with that, by the way. >> it's okay. >> brian morganstern, thanks so much, guys. >> up next, hillary clinton pushing her agenda hard today in kentucky ahead of tuesday ace primary. 55 delegates are at stake as the front-runner tries to stop bernie sanders' momentum and plus my one on one conversation with louise sunshine, one much donald trump's former executives. >> see, donald doesn't distinguish between women and men. he distinguishes -- he looks for talent. he looks for trust worthy talent. and i'd like to... cut. thank you, we'll call you. evening, film noir, smoke, atmosphere... bob... you're a young farmhand and e*trade is your cow. milk it. e*trade is all about seizing opportunity. sign up at etrade.com and get up to six hundred dollars. [ "dreams" by beck ] hmmmmm... hmmmmm... the turbocharged dream machine. the volkswagen golf gti. part of the

eastern with a ross perot campaign rally in texas from 1992. then gary hart's 1987 campaign anunsment. then a look at the 1968 campaign in the u.s. information agency film "a private decision." and we wrap up the night with the 1968 campaign ads from nixon, humphrey, wallace and ken dichlt american history tv in prime time. beginning at 8:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span3. we continue our look at the church committee 40 years after the releasest final report on government intelligence activities. next, rex bradford, vice president of the assassination archives and research center. he discusses the committee findings related to political assassinations. the church committee investigated abuses by u.s. intelligence agencies from the 1950s through wear the gate. this was recorded in 2013 at due cane university at an international symposium to mark the 50th anniversary of the assassination of john f. kennedy. the discussion ran 50 minutes. >>> hello. my talk is going to be a little bit different. i want to start with kind of a history lesson that too

he asked how he dealt with ross perot. he said it's like riding a bucking bull. enjoy it while it lasts. hold on as tight as you can. when you do get bucked, try not to get trampled. he said he has even despite all experience in campaigns for the last 40, 50 years, he doesn't believe that anybody can predict what's going to happen this time around. certainly not him. >> all right. awaiting clearance to enter trump tower in midtown manhattan. let's check in with the cruz campaign. they're at the crowne plaza downtown hotel in indianapolis. what, if anything, are they saying after this loss? >> this loss not surprising for the cruz campaign. we talked a bit ago about the idea they were bracing for a loss here. the question will be what the margin is. how bad of a loss is it? the fact we're calling it at polls close indicate it may be a significant one for ted cruz. our most recent polling showed him trailing trump by 15%. you look at the exit poll, there was a sharp ideological divide. painting himself as the true conservative. cruz will be coming out onto this sta

no one since ross perot and that was a hoot. it is not totally implausible.that we promise you starting right now. >>> if it's monday, it's a mountain of new information in our new poll. how much is trump's lack of experience in government hurting him and how do feels of president obama factor into all of it? this is mtb daily and it starts right now. good evening. welcome to mtb daily. i'm steve core makornacki. and we have most new numbers in including new details that help explain the fight between donald trump and hillary clinton. it is now neck and

but ross perot spent a ton of money and had an appealing message for the people who were unhappy andad the conspiracy. >> right. >> at one point before he dropped out, he was ahead and you have the right candidate, the right charisma, the right financing it's possible. >> yeah. and, steve, that's a great point. chuck todd, ross perot going into bill clinton's democratic convention in new york was a first place. >> right. >> he had the lead. >> then he started talking about black panthers coming in by helicopter trying to break his up daughter's weddings. i don't know if he got demotions and other various ufos but he started talking crazy. the fact he got one out of five votes speaks volumes to what he could have done. i don't know if ross perot could have won, but i know he was in first place right in the heart of the summer right in the middle of things. i wonder if when you look into the trump numbers and the clinton numbers, how strong is their support? >> well, i think it's more of their support, their strength of their support is based on the weakness of their opponent. you know

ross perot, ronald reagan in 1980. only released one year.ok at this, how important is it? is it mandatory? it doesn't disqualify him. >> it doesn't despite what mr. . i'm glad that allen brought up nixon. it was a nixon gimmick. nixon was under pressure during the checker speech that he challenged his opponents to do to deflect from the scandals nixon was under. i guess allen is for nixon gimmicks. >> the point is he did it -- >> obamas have released 12 years of their tax returns. we know america has never seen any more better prosperity and the world is at peace said no one ever. this is -- it's a red herring, a chinese squirrel, whatever you want to call it. what we do know is whatever their tax returns sayi it's not about how they're going to govern. >> you're missing the point. he's lied. three different answers. that's the issue here and he said he would do it he's not going to do it. >> i'm not sure how you made it through the clinton administration when it came to everything they said. i did not have sex with that woman. >> this is th

ross perot was the most successful third party candidate in history, and he only got about 18%.would be successful, and it might just pult hillary clinton in the white house, which republicans don't want. >> it's a vote for hillary clinton, absolutely. if are you a conservative, it pains me to no end saying i'm a conservative, therefore i'm not voting trump. that makes no sense, because you're letting hillary clinton get into the white house. >> does it help democrats? >> yeah, if you look historically, divided parties typically don't win the white house. it's much harder to win when you're a divided party. the republican party is much more divided at this stage than any major political party has been in my lifetime. so yeah, it puts them in a very weak position. >> texas governor rick perry endorsed trump tonight. said he would be open to any way to help the party, being open to a vp nomination as well. >> what rick perry did is what everyone does in history. you have a nominee, you support the nominee. i never thought i would say i love mitch mcconnell, but tonight i'm saying

asked how it looks compared to 1992 when there was this character, a businessman outsider named ross perotho decided to run. what was remarkable was how much worse those numbers are today or a few years ago than they were back in 1982, and in 1992, they were bad enough that this character from dallas, texas, as you recall, was leading bill clinton and george h.w. bush for two months of the election and, arguably, had he been a different candidate with the same message might have won that election. the opening for somebody to run as a businessman outsider not beholden to special interests, not with a political background was enormous. that it was donald trump is a surprise, but it should not be. we should not be surprised somebody has captured that space of fundamental change, that is so fundamental, that as mark said, they are willing to risk somebody that might be risky because they have tried everyone else and have been let down. rose: what is it about trump's record in business that suggests he would be a good president? he brings opposing sides together and becomes a problem solver, an

back in 1992, ross perot was the most successful third party candidate in history. he got 18%. i don't think a third party candidate would be successful, and it may just put hillary clinton in the white house. >> i would love to write someone in or have someone else come in as a third party candidate. but it's a vote for hillary clinton. >> absolutely. >> if you are a conservative, it pains me to no end to say, i'm a conservative and i'm not voting for trump. >> does it help democrats? >> yeah, if you look at it historically, divided parties historically don't win general elections. the republicans in '92. it's much harder to win when you're a divided party. they're more divided at this stage than any political party in my lifetime. >> rick perry endorsed trump tonight, said he would be open -- i'm open in anyway to help the party, that would be a vp as well. >> that's fantastic many that's what people do when you have a presumptive nominee. you have a nominee, you support the nominee. i commend rick perry and mitch mcconnell. i never thought i say that. >> here's what mitch mc

ross perot. he never gave anybody to anybody. reagan only gave partial and bill clinton only gave very little. right now, i mean, people are trying to assess donald trump and his honesty has been questioned bipartisans. i think it would be a good move for him to release his tax returns. >> i think it's crazy. by the way the partisans? the partisans are everyone you see in the national media almost without exclusion. >> i will give you that. >> the heck with them. why should he mess with them? >> don't you want to know though about -- >> -- i don't. i will make you a bet you haven't read a single report by any president on his income tax. i will make you a bet you haven't. >> i went offer romney's to take a look to see if he had offshore stuff. >> did you like the part about the cayman islands? >> he says he is worth this much money and he has built his campaign on being a successful business person. >> sure. >> let's see how successful he is. is there something wrong with that. >> after the first billion i lose interest. these gu