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on nbc to talk about his plan for curing what ails the economy. >> ross perot, plain talk about jobshe washington mess. >> i thought it would be a good idea to take the most important problem first. that problem is our economy and jobs. >> out of nowhere comes ross perot, this is straight talking billionaire who looks a little goofy for the age of television but because he has the old southern charm, he's able to evoke an old-fashioned america that pat buchanan is also evoking that george bush is not able to evoke effectively. >> ross perot was making inroads. the white house was just furious and scared. if he continued to attract republican voters, then bush was going to lose. but nothing says "we got married" like a 12 ounce piece of scrap metal. yo! we got married! honk if you like joint assets. now you're so busy soaking up all this attention, you don't see the car in front of you. and if i can crash your "perfect day", imagine what i can do to the rest of 'em. so get allstate, and be better protected from mayhem. like me. need a hair smoother get super fruit moroccan argan oil.

. >> ross perot, that's when i thought the greatest but to me, this is not an issue of support for free trade versus protectionism. to me, this is an issue of civics, and it's about, do people understand that governance must be global, regional, bilateral as well as national, in order to effectively govern trade. again, on digital trade, trading ideas, disinformation, we're going to need rules that prevent russia from using bots to spread misinformation about things in the united states or manipulating the american public. that's a trade issue, believe it or not, and it's also a governance issue, so unfortunately, we don't have a national curriculum, but many people don't learn about trade agreements as part of learning about governance. so to me, part of it is we need to do a better job. trade as a percentage of gmp, at its maximum, 27%, which is essentially what healthcare is to the u.s. economy. and so that's a huge chunk, but compared to most countries, that is a piddle. because other countries are more dependent on trade further economies. so they educate their students at the high

ross perot plugged into that in 1992 because of the economic populism he was espousing. it pulled those out of the republican party and that national election and in 1996, pat buchanan was just like that but he expanded it to have social populace. people forget, pitch for -- pitchfork pat beating bob dole as the last man standing with 25 % of the vote. you could do well with 25 % of the vote. he survived longer than phil graham who was one of the smartest people in american politics. this popular tourism -- populism existed. we tend to consolidate anomalies quickly and we don't have three or four man races where someone is getting 30 % of the vote to win the primaries. that is the difference in the last election. sarah palin is no more the creator of the tea party just like ross perot or pat buchanan . we've got this. it is a new thing to say this is brand no. people have run races. we have two side steps in order to elect establishment politicians. i can't believe john mccain is being called an establishment politician and because he won the nomination he became an esta

ross perot tried to buy microsoft from bill gates in 1979, and bill said no.ers have a lot of love and passion around their stuff. even though facebook was tiny, i think it was 2009, and i offered $20 billion. something like that. mark had absolutely no interest. david: a couple of other businesses, the smartphone business that apple has more or less perfected, at least in the united states. you were skeptical that would be a great business. do you think microsoft could have gotten into that business earlier? steve: yes. we could have and should have. we should have gotten into that business, and i believe that. david: one of the other things that happen during this time when you were ceo was cloud computing. your neighbor, amazon, built this big business under your nose. you surprised they became so big in cloud? steve: they had more success than i anticipated. i did not sell them short. but they have had more success. here is why i think i was completely dubious. it is very hard sometimes for a big company to do something very different. i call it doing a se

ross perot tried to buy microsoft from bill gates in 1979, and bill said no.have a lot of love and passion around their stuff. even though facebook was tiny, i think it was 2009, and i offered $20 billion. something like that. mark had absolutely no interest. david: a couple of other businesses, the smartphone business that apple has more or less perfected, at least in the united states. you were skeptical that would be a great business. do you think microsoft could have gotten into that business earlier? steve: yes. we could have and should have. we should have gotten into that business, and i believe that. david: one of the other things that happen during this time when you were ceo was cloud computing. your neighbor, amazon, built this big business under your nose. you surprised they became so big in cloud? steve: they had more success than i anticipated. i did not sell them short. but they have had more success. here is why i think i was completely dubious. it is very hard sometimes for a big company to do something very different. i call it doing a second

ross perot plugged into that in 1992 and helped defeat george h.w.h because of the economic populism that he was espousing that pulled voters out of the republican party. and then in 1996, pat buchanan was just like that. and yet, he expanded it to have social populism. and people forget, pitchfork pat beating bob dole in republican primaries as the last man standing with about 25% of the vote. so you can do well with about 25% of the vote. he survived longer than phil gramm did, who was arguably one of the smartest people in american politics. so this brand of populism existed in the republican party from the get-go. what has happened in the past is we tend to consolidate our party nominees quickly and we don't have three or four-man races that divided up to where someone is getting 30% of the vote to win primaries. that is the difference in the last election. sarah palin is no more the creator of tea partyism. just like ross perot or pat buchanan and even a little brand of pat robertson. we have got this. it is a very new thing. sort of the somehow

ross perot tried to buy microsoft from bill gates in, like, 1979, and bill said no.nders really have a lot of love and passion around their stuff. i think it was 2009 and i offered 20 plus billion dollars, something like that, and mark had absolutely no interest. david: couple other businesses -- i think the smartphone business, that apple has now pretty much perfected in the united states, you were skeptical that would be a great business. do you think microsoft should have gotten into that business earlier? steve: we could have and should have. that' -- i blew that. david: one of the other things that happened during this peer of time when you were ceo was -- ime when youof t were ceo west cloud computing. are you surprised amazon built this? steve: they've had more success than i anticipated. i didn't sell them short. i'm not saying i was completely dubious. it is very hard sometimes for big companies to do something very different. i call it doing a second trick. at the time, i would call amazon a one trick pony. it was doing this retail stuff, doing an awesome j

i have been since ross perot and i think the independent party should do nothing but working solutions. america, if you can do this now and work together, you'll see the change next month. >> i'm going to leave it there, jeff, sorry for abruptly cutting you off. i didn't mean to do that. >> two points to that. to the first comment about how climate change can't be stopped but slowed, i definitely agree. i think there's too much focus particularly in washington on the binary to combat climate change. it's nothing we're ever going to fight and get over. you know, like when gay marriage was allowed at the supreme court, some gay marriage advocates resolved their group. that's never going to happen with climate change. so i think that's a very important point andone that should be emphasized and more to your point, i think it's very important to talk about what consumers can do with their energy use. i think it's unfortunate because most people are not nearly as informed about their electric bill as this caller is. i think there's increasingly awareness and attempts by some of the utility

have spoken positively about relationships between mexico and the united states, going back to ross perot and the great sucking sound to the current administration speaking negatively about the mexican relationship, where are the institutions that will publicize the positive aspects you are talking about? where the auto companies, auto parts moving back and forth, where are the academics, the government people who can highlight the positive things you said to impact public opinion? >> we don't know as much as we should but we don't know nothing either. we do, there is a conversation about mexico's connected this to us. one reason we have not withdrawn from nafta, this was a campaign issue of the president of the united states to withdraw from nafta, we can close to doing so at the end of his hundred days, it is not happened, in large part because there has been enormous pressure first from the agricultural industry who would be hard-hit from this and the auto companies and from the states that would be directly affected including a lot of states that voted for donald trump. so this is par

absolutely, especially since we've seen 8 inches and some incidents and this is on estimated rainfall ross perot throughcan see right o wednesday night. finally thursday is looking nice and an additional 2 to 5 inches. that means we'llee more flooding in spots across the region and more widespread rain across the region meanset ar chance that we're tracking flooding issues tomorrow at this timeeright on news 5. how does this compare. check this out before you leave. see what to avoidhen driving out there, especially if it's a heavy widespread rain. come across a flooded roadway, turn around, don'tverown. want to go over water going across a roadnd make sure the drains are clear. we're talking about widespread rain tuesday and wednesday. that doesn't mean continuous from start tfinish, but it's at times, and you can count on that, not just tomorrow but wednesday as well. thursday we're looking really dry and mainly an estimated shower and thunderstorms and we do really hk to say, doug, and we'll this pattern starts back up again. temperatures next couple of days, around 80 degrees and low 80s. ch

lou: not unless they find a ross perot. that's the only way ld until work.ill clinton didn't even get 50% of the vote when he ran in two successive races. dan, great to have you with us. have a a great weekend, dan bongino. thank you very much. >> you too. lou: almost 30 tornadoes ripping through central iowa yesterday, rural towns like marshalltown suffering direct hits, and this is marshall, iowa. damaged buildings everywhere, down power lines, cars overturned. ten people injured and, thankfully, none killed. >>> up next, the national left-wing media in a frenzy over reports former trump attorney michael cohen has tapes of president trump. listen. >> donald trump is a president with a lot of secrets. he and his allies tell a lot of lies to cover them up, and this applies to his relationship with women. >> michael cohen is very willing to testify against donald trump if it comes to that. he does not feel any loyalty anymore to the president. he feels that the president has run him over with a bus. >> donald trump is not smart. he's dumb when it comes to thi

he would run for the nomination of the reform party started a few years before by ross perot.when pat buchanan got competition for the reform party nomination, surprise competition from a celebrity billionaire named donald trump. trump joined the reform party in 1999. he said he was looking at running for president and a lot of it was like today. he disparaged enemies with schoolyard taunts, he talked about making oprah his runningmate, he claimed to be doing great in the polls when he wasn't. he became a one-man content machine for cable news channels. so much so similar but with one very big difference between the donald trump of 1999 and the one we know today. that pat buchanan platform, the donald trump of 1999 wanted no part of it. critics accused buchanan of flirting with racism, anti-semitism, xenophobia and worse and trump said he agreed. he called buchanan a hitler lover, an anti-semite. he said buchanan was drawing support from a staunch right whacko vote. trump wrote an op-ed attacking buchanan. on slow days, trump wrote, he attacks gays, immigrants, welfare recipie

>> there is a guy named ross perot who was in the -- >> the point is democrats need to worry about ahey can take joy frs trump's low numbers. they need to worry first of all about not doing damage to themselves pie getting too far out and alienating that very small cap governor pat mccotego may swing in both directions. we have seen this in the gore race against george w. bush about the risk of third party candidate draining off in a close election of a few p percenption. >> mike bloomberg is talking. i would say more seriously from what i have heard then the past of mounting a challenge against donald trump. there is talk about howard schultz did the same. he wanted to sometime. mark cuban, you name it. any democrats think it is going to be republicans verses democrats and they're not going to be the bye bye girls. >> somebody is going to fill the space in the center and most li like lie with the billion dollars. >> the name you mentioned could pose a serious challenge. look at bluoomberg, he has not pulled a trigger but he might. he made the $80 million commit for the democrat's ra

i am an independent, i have been since ross perot, and i think the independent party should do solutionsng america, if you can do this now and work together, you will see the change next month. host: ok, jeff, i will leave it there. thank you for that. amy: to the caller's first comment about how climate change cannot be stopped, but it can be that. i agree with . i think there has been too much focus in washington on this binary -- combat climate change -- it is not something we will ever fight and get over. gay marriagemat was allowed in the supreme court, some gay marriage groups dissolved. i do not think that will happen with climate change, that should be emphasized. also, more to your point, it is very important to talk about what consumers can do with their use.y i think it is unfortunate, because most people are not nearly as informed about their electric bill as this caller is. i think there is increasingly awareness and attempt by some utility companies to empower their consumers with knowledge do.t what they can i think part of the problem, your electricity bill comes once a m

it is hard for our allies to sort through, but to borrow ross perot's phrase if you look where the rubberme policies on russia that are fairly tough. >> well, when i talked to source they tell me you have to make the difference between what president trump is doing, his rhetoric, his actions, even his body language in the helsinki press conference which i attended and the actual policies of the united states which are tough on russia. the trump administration has expelled russian officials, closed consulates, not let up on the russian sanctions. there's this idea when i talk to people, i talk to the u.s. ambassador to nato, former ambassador to nato he told me all that was going on and nato allies will try to plan work around for the united states because they don't trust the united states under trump, the trump administration, the actual nuts and bolts of what came out of it is that the united states is not changing our relationship with nato, we're not taking out troops of any of the nato military operations, that said, being in that meeting, being in that press conference, it was happe