so it was a good opportunity. >> independent ross perot. >> after ten weeks ross perot is back.fter all. >> we just knew ross perot would be a problem. vote for bush, you vote for clinton. now you have a third choice. >> governor bill clinton, the democratic nominee. >> presidential debates are not only a show. they're a series of moments. the key is dominating a moment that can then be put on the morning shows, the evening news, recycled. nowadays it would be going viral. >> clinton's team are leaving nothing to chance. >> we got stools. you know, like the ones they would have to sit on. and we practiced setting up like a runner in a starter's blocks. don't sit back. sit up like this, one leg on a rung, one foot on the floor, and as soon as you can spring out of the chair, spring out and go engage that audience member. >> we said there will come a time where you can walk up to somebody and really relate to them and that's exactly what you want to show the american people. >> we were so obsessed that -- sorry to admit this now. we stole those stools. >> that's right. they stole

because clinton didn't win, ross perot took away 19% of the vote. didn't clinton got 41% or 43%? give me a break. that's okay, whatever. than ross perot spent like 100 million, which is probably double if you bring it up to today's dollars. and then they have different people, a friend of mine, who ran, steve forbes, he ran twice, and he was in for a lot. and then they had donald trump. now this is your own money. so this is your own money. and i said i spend a lot of money on my primaries, we will see how the hill we do. it's amazing, once you win, when he comes in pretty fast. what is that all about? in the middle, they had trump, that were behind me.ur or five a lot of money spent. loss, loss, loss, loss, loss. but in the middle, they had donald trump. ended it in say 500 million and it didn't say 250, like this steyer guy. it said 70 million of my own money. i spent 70. and it said "donald trump won the presidency of the united states." >> laura: we are going to get back to the rally in just a moment, but first i want to get the reaction from charlie hurt, "washington times"

take your advice helen humphrey and scott ross perot thanks so much. to the bundesliga now and by minix game but hoffenheim was twice interrupted the visiting fans showed an offensive bana i ended hoffenheim my hope and won the game 6 nil but what happened in the stands will be the talking point as we go forward elsewhere dortmund edged freiburg glad boxoffice spirited out spoke and mights hoffenheim on friday decide often how to shed 6 goals. i know nothing at the germans because sometimes i am but most and nothing with the 10 men think deep into the german culture. we think that is groundless they all believe it's all that. time rachel join me for me to get something up post. their mission. to save the. marvel comics started in $1039.00 since then they've created a vast empire of superheroes who also have human weaknesses. their creators have had their share of clashes the moving story of a comic giant marvel stores march 10th. the shootings that tick talk is currently the most downloaded social f. what type of videos work on to talk how can you make

ross perot took away 19% of the vote. [cheering] pres.didn't clinton get 41% or 43%, so give me a break, but whatever. ross perot spent like $100 million, which is probably double if you bring it up to today's dollars. you have a friend of mine who ran, steve forbes who ran twice, he was in for a lot. then you had donald trump. this is your own money. this is your own money. i said, i spend a lot of money in my primaries, we will see how the hell we do. once you win, the money comes in, like it comes in pretty fast. what is that all about? but so in the middle they had trump. then they had four or five that were behind me. a lot of money spent. loss, loss, loss, loss, loss. in the middle, they have donald trump. it did not say $500 million and it did not say $250 million. it said $70 million of my own money. it said donald trump won the presidency of the united states. [cheers and applause] pres. trump: we won! my father would teach me, if you can spend less and when, that is spending -- better than spending a lot and winning. crooked hil

been awarded at the 70th for the international film festival and he w salan i'm free i'm scott ross perot we're down at the red carpet and. the green of british cinema talent we're all and all sky and we are tony now she can imagine a budding golden back to that mix that's coming up later on the show. i'm merely phenomenon welcome to the program governments around the world are ramping up efforts to contain the coronavirus asked the world health organization wants them to prepare for a pandemic. the health officials have just reported 20 new cases of the virus germany and california now are reporting the 1st cases that have no obvious chain of transmission it comes with new infections outside china now outnumbering those insides this map shows the severity of the epidemic around the world the death of the blues the higher the number of reported cases china the epicenter half as outbreak is still well out in front with more than 78000 recorded infections elsewhere the situation is most serious in south korea iran and italy all together some 50 countries are territories now have confirmed c

so i think that the image of ross perot capturing people was very potent term. we have a lot of destruction and innovation and animation that is been very disruptive to jobs and that is hard to separate that from trade. and i think the other reason is some of the places that were hit the hardest without really support to get back on their feet were places key states battleground states in presidential elections. it has come up every four years as a result of that and that is one reason nafta and trade really did a lot of it and come from the initial trade deal in 1994. i am not sure about the new agreement for a couple reasons. 1385 members of congress and 89 members of the senate voted for it. we have never had such an overwhelming support on the sides of the aisle for retreat deal. that in and of itself, in the book if were going to have trade deals for pets with one vote, it is so divisive. it offends people against each other and i don't think that is healthy for us. the fact that this had such an overwhelming support is the first train deal that the or was

we'll take your advice helen humphrey and scott ross perot thanks so much. to the bundesliga now and by i mean that hoffenheim was twice interrupted after the visiting fans showed an offensive banner and at hoffenheim on a rather deep my hope on won the game 6 no but what happens in the step what happened rather in the stands will be the talking points from that one elsewhere dortmund edged freiburg gladbach sore for a spirited and months bait hoffenheim on friday to soften help to shed 6 goals this one looked all over at half time as does little raced into a 3 nil lead tomming the pick of the goals that hetta would rally back after the break new signing for stuff one and then scored a penalty his 1st goal for the club securing a point to take back to berlin much needed one to 7 days late game sees cologne host shell on sunday their matches in berlin and leipzig frankfurt's trip to bremen has been postponed due to the visit is the commitments. and a reminder before we go of the top stories we're following for you both already is a crawl across the globe impl

perils of social media a lesson to us all you know we'll take your advice helen humphrey and scott ross perot thanks so much. to the bundesliga now and by minix guy but hoffenheim was twice interrupted after the visiting fans showed an offensive bana i ended hoffenheim and i did my hall and won the game 6 nil but what happened in the stands will be the talking point as we go forward elsewhere dortmund edged freiburg glad boxoffice spirited out spoke and might speak hoffenheim on friday on health shared 6 goals. i mean nothing out of the germans because sometimes they are for the most and nothing with the to do the german think deep into the german culture. you don't seem to think that is groundless they all believe it's all that they know i'm rachel join me to meet them in the front seat of the host. to save the. marvel comics.

: i'm an old hillbilly out in tennessee and you know, the only time i ever voted before was for ross perot but it was that giant sucking sound and i had never been so happy to vote for president trump and campaigned, campaigned. i mean, i was just a volunteer. me and my cousin and i am the happiest girl in mylife . we knew he did nothing wrong and we are sick and tired of being taken advantage of, having to pay all this money for other countries. you've got to learn. >> host: with regard to the entire impeachmentprocess , was it fair? >> caller: well, they weren't fair from the congress to the president. they were not fair. hecould not get witnesses . he couldn't get anything. >> host: williams in fort smith arkansas, democrats line. >> caller: hello. speed. >> host: your reaction to the last five minutes. >> caller: i have three points to make for the candidates and especially donald trump . the ends don't justify the means. trump has a big following like a cult following and i don't think it's the way people go about things that count. it's all these things he brags about and also the ex

so i think that image of ross perot captured people because it was a potent term.we had a lot of disruption. we had a lot of innovation and automation that was very disruptive to jobs. it's hard to separate that from trade. but i think the other reason is some of the places that were hit the hardest, without really support to get back on their feet were places there were key states, battleground states in presidential elections. so it comes up every four years as a result of that. so that's one reason nafta and trade really did a lot of it comes from that initial trade deal in 1994. >> what about the new agreement. >> guest: the new agreement i'm sorry i am very bullish on the new agreement for a couple reasons. one, 385 members of congress and 89 members of the senate voted for. we have never had such an overwhelming support on both sides of the iowa for trade deal. better never itself, i forget i have trade deals the past by one vote is so divisive and pits people against each other and parties, i don't think that's healthy for us. the fact that this had such ove

so i think that image of ross perot captured people because it was a sortof potent term . we had a lot of disruption. we had a lot of innovation and automation and has been very disruptiveto jobs . so it's hard to separate that from trade and i think the other reason is some of the places that were hit the hardest without really support to get back on their feet were places that were key states, battleground states in presidential elections so it has come up every 4 years as a result of that that's one reason nafta and trade really did a lot of it comes from that initial trade deal in 1994. >> the new agreement, i'm sorry. i am very bullish onthe new agreement for a couple of reasons . number one, 385 members of congress and 89 members of the senate voted for it. we have never had an overwhelming report on both sides of the aisle for a trade deal so that in and of itself, because in the book if you're going to have trade deals that passed by one vote , it's so divisive and it fits people against each other's and i don't think that's healthy for us so the fact that this had

billionaire the ross perot said he didn't think it made a difference but it made all the difference forsurgent campaign. >> do you think you'll be included in the debates? >> i could care less. >> would you like to be in. >> i would love to of the. >> ross perot has been invited to join in. >> why should you be in the debate if you're running only 5% of the polls? >> because we met all the objective criteria of the debate commission. we were in the campaign last time and we were included in the debates. >> so what makes the objective criteria? in the primaries, the party decides. so while different media outlets rotate in broadcasting these debates, it is tonight democratic party that sets the criteria for who is in them. these can be make or break. this cycle, the dnc made rules, the candidates must meet a polling threshold or draw grassroots fundraising from 65,000 people. now, why make those donations a requirement at all? the dnc chairman said last year, the requirement tests candidates on proving their national appeal as an opportunity for people who don't have the national name i.

he is the kind of person we were hoping for from ross perot back in the day. had hopes that trump as a money guy might have some of what ross perot used to bring to the table. butp is, i hate to say it, he is a fraud. bloomberg is the real mccoy. for everyone listening across the country, on the internet, around the world, looking to bloomberg. anyone who was a ross perot enthusiast like i was, the only time i voted outside democrat, i voted for perot twice. people need to look at bloomberg, look at what he is doing. bernie sanders is wrong putting down billionaires. bloomberg is self-made. host: let me jump into the former mayor of new york, mike bloomberg. what did you see when he was mayor that translates best to a successful run for the president and a successful presidency? caller: bloomberg was self-made. no one gave him a dime. trump's father gave the family $200 million split between the donald and his siblings. they ended up with over $70 million each given to them on a silver spirit. ver nonsense -- on a sil spoon. the nonsense is a lot of false info

yeah i was watching that documentary this afternoon my colleagues helena humphrey and scott ross perot they did the same thing good evening to both of you guys how does hillary clinton how does she come across in your opinion in this documentary. yeah i think i think that we all agree that hillary clinton is one of the most divisive political figures in america there's a lot of people who love her there's a lot of people who really dislike her and i think anyone going in with a strong opinion of hillary clinton into the series is probably not going to have their mind changed by it there's plenty there for everybody really if you love hillary clinton i think you can look at this documentary and see it incredibly intelligent. innovative and it's inspirational politician if you dislike her you're probably going to see elements of her political conniving. props or arrogance towards political opponents so i don't think this documentary series is going to change anybody's mind but what i thought was really compelling about it is the fact that is a real in-depth and behind the scenes look at

awarded at the 70th and international berlin film festival and it means helen humphrey and scott ross perot are down at the red carpet. at the 1000000000 dollar today we've got the queen of british cinema helen mirren she picks up an honorary golden back for her life's work that's coming up later in the show. i'm sumi so much going to thank you for joining us governments are ramping up their moves to contain the corona virus as it spreads globally it follows warnings from the world health organization that the world must prepare for a pandemic new infections of the virus outside china are now outnumbering those in china and we have a map that shows us. the verity of the at the demick in the affected nations and the deeper the blue on this map but the larger the number of reported cases as you can see here china still has the highest number more than $78000.00 cases there altogether 50 countries or territories have confirmed cases of the virus that total stands at more than $82000.00 numerous international flights have been canceled here's a closer look at how countries around the world are

yeah i was watching that documentary this afternoon my colleagues helena humphrey and scott ross perot they did the same thing good evening to both of you guys how does hillary clinton how does she come across in your opinion in this documentary. yeah i think i think that we all agree that hillary clinton is one of the most divisive political figures in america there's a lot of people who love her there's a lot of people who really dislike her and i think anyone going in with a strong opinion of hillary clinton into the series is probably not going to have their mind changed by it there's plenty there for everybody really if you a lovely clinton i think you can look at this documentary and see it incredibly intelligent. and it's very inspirational politician if you dislike her you're probably going to see elements of her political conniving of props or arrogance towards political opponents so i don't think this documentary series is going to change anybody's mind but what i thought was really compelling about it is the fact is a real in-depth and behind the scenes look at someone i thi

i mean, admiral stockdale, ran with ross perot, they wanted to get attention to the p.o.w. issue.hose things have happened. but we have never had something like this, they're saying the character of president trump is unfit that he's amoral degenerate. general kelly who knows him well, being white house chief of staff, famously said, if i leave, which he did, this president is going to be impeached. meaning he doesn't understand limits of executive power, he's going to abuse his power, he has utter disregard for congress, and he -- i think they're drawing the line in the sense that you're not going to demonize good soldiers in the united states. and so it has been interesting to see them kind of start holding the line. remember, people at cia, state department, had to do the same thing when president trump tried to strip security clearances away from some of our great diplomats and national security thinkers. >> so in another way too, they're stepping into the breach, are they not? because other folks in positions of power have not been willing to challenge this president, particu

a few billionaires have funded races before like ross perot and steve forbes, the democrats now havenning. the reason is broader than i think any particular candidate, right? apart from whether you like steyer or bloomberg or perot or not, our democracy is literally more expensive for candidates than it has ever been. multimillion-dollar, it is almost a rirlt. new technology can be a platform for regular citizens but it is for sale. then courts regulate campaign spending which leaders in both parties have warned about. >> the shadow groups are already forming. and building war chests of tens of millions of dollars to influence the following elections. >> if they gave $1 million, they can remain anonymous. is that really what american politics are all about? >> it buys access. when you start talking about 100,000, $500,000, million-dollar contributions, it was starting to cripple the political process. >> that brings us to tonight's special report. how money is shaping this race already. sometimes many subtle ways that can be hard to see. why this goes beyond any single the entire cyc

. >> and just ask president ross perote or steve forbes about whether or not you can buy your way toy. >> but i guess the other question looking ahead, is shermichael, what money can buy and not? >> it can buy an act to move up somewhat in the polls, and we have seen that over the past several weeks with mike bloomberg. one thing last night proved is that money cannot buy a great debate performance. at the end of the day, if you cannot debate well in a conten shsz format against your other democratic rivals, why in the world should democratic voters and democratic independent-leaning voters expect you to be able to do well against donald trump? it doesn't make any sense. if people thought last night was bad, just imagine when the debate is in south carolina in a week, and mike bloomberg has to answer tough questions about race. we saw how he fumbled all over the place. to borrow a phrase from joe biden, elizabeth warren beat him like a drum. and if you thought last week was bad, then just imagine what's going to happen -- if you thought last night was bad, just imagine what's going t

[laughter] i know i sound more like ross perot than joe biden, but if people watched jim clyburn thisvery emotional testimonial for him. that will only help in south carolina and maybe elsewhere. >> martha: i think that wealth and the lot, the endorsement from clyburn. i thought it was heartfelt, and authentic moment. which a lot of people connect with. you have all this clashing across twitter and social media, but there's nothing like a real person speaking to voters and saying, "i stand by this man, i believe in him." if he doesn't win, he has to win. he has to come in first. he has to do it by a sizable margin pay the pattern we've seen in iowa, new hampshire, now south carolina, is a huge lead, a double-digit lead, that joe biden enjoyed, gets slimmer and slimmer while other people start gaining ground. he loses ground to bernie sanders in this case. if he doesn't really have a solid first-place finish, i guess there will be some real soul-searching conversations in that campaign. >> harris: you know, what i'm curious about, when you look at the demographic break out of the state

and one thing we have learned is that money alone can't buy elections or ross perot would be the president of the united states right now. yes, of course fund-raising matters and being on the air waves matters, but part of what's so important about this process in the early states is i don't think you can skip having voters look you in the eye, ask you what you're going to do for them, challenge you, question you, and as the campaign goes on in terms of voters and reporters, seriously asking tough questions of all of the candidates, it has a leveling effect where money alone can't be the decisive factor. >> pete buttigieg, i'm going to have to leave it there. thanks for coming on and sharing your views. be safe on the trail. >> good to be with you. >> thank you, sir. >>> when we come back, the new hampshire primary front-runner, senator bernie sanders joins me next. as we go to break, some of what we've been hearing from new hampshire voters. >> i know there's a big bernie wave, but i'm really not sure how much he can unite the party. >> i just worry about the electability question. >> eli

ross perot was first. the field looked completely in disarray.t this candidate completely harmed could win this. they come out of convention, 17 points ahead at the convention. lots of things can happen in this race. >> lots of things can happen. i want to bring this to rahm, if the nominee is either bloomberg or sanders, the trump parallel really holds, right. i mean, that's broken democratic party that's been taken over a nondemocratic. >> we're right twice a day. the fact is, one of the threats to the party right now is a rupture in the core, it played out in 2016. and i want to say this, the reason donald trump is vulnerable in this economy is because the fact he's frightened people over the last three years, our goal is to have a nominee that reassures them. he's not getting the political benefit of this economy. he'll run on three things -- he'll run on 3.5% unemployment, 3% wage growth and 3% ek questi -- equity in your home. the democrats will run on housing, health care and higher education. if we have a candidate who reassures people wh

this is the two-party vote if we add in that ross perot got a portion of the vote and neither candidate -- none of the candidates got a majority from white women. i will focus on the two. we see this cavern in the voting preferences of white women and african-american women. this is latina women. we have not had that date as long. i would also argue that we have been focused on the black white racial gap and there is really interesting stuff happening among this rowing part of the population that is latina that i think is going to be very important going forward. in i'm showing you here is 2016, men are again in gold and men and purple, whites to my ,ar-right and african american the percent in 2012 voting for the republican candidate. extremely low levels of african-american support from what men or women for mitt romney in 2012. we see that same gender gap. this is another thing to notice. the pattern is usually the same across virtually every group. right? we see the same pattern, gender gap but a majority of white men and women voting for mitt romney. remember the most radical thing

he has created the republican party has been reformed into a third party now, a ross perot kind of partyrg and stiers are still numbers of the corporate bad actor democrats. they are going to make things worth -- worse. we have a president like ross perot, this donald trump, who has turned things in a 180 degrees direction. the whole problem started with ruling77 supreme court withequated the big money first amendment freedom of speech. thank you very much. agree on a number of things. certainly the influence of money in the politics has been corrosive. and has divided us, and has turned our political system into teams played between two that is funded by a very small percentage of the country that is screaming at each other and not helping us getting -- get anything done. the point about president trump is an interesting one. he -- and bernie sanders is doing the same thing -- was able to corral a very small but very passionate minority of one of the parties and use it to take control of a position in our government. that is one of the weaknesses in our system now. thatally have two par

one thing we have learned is that money alone can't buy elections or ross perot would be the president of the united states right now. >> the fund a. issue, the reason we have income inequality, only major country on to guarantee health care to all, almost all new income and wealth goes to the top 1% which is because it goes to the corrupt business system. >> so here's what we're watching that's new. pete buttigieg continuing to find that the with the front-runner status comes a target on your back, facing attacks from at least three other candidates including this new attack ad from joe biden. >> barack fwoem called joe biden. >> the best vice president america has ever had. >> but pete buttigieg doesn't think much. when president obama called on him joe biden helped lead the pass age of the affordable care act which gave health care to others. pete buttigieg installed decorative lights giving south bend colorfully ilum nated rivers. >> nbc road warrior vaughn hillyard has been following this and joins us now. what's buttigieg saying to fight back? >> reporter: we should note that we

bloomberg is leading a list, followed by tom steyer, ross perot, president trump.hony in san antonio, texas. good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to say that i don't know why any true democrat would support mayor bloomberg. he is another billionaire wall has noperson that business running for the democratic party. he was a republican the last 12 years and only a week before he decided to run for president did he ever apologize for his stop and frisk policies. as a bernie supporter, there is no way i could support bloomberg because i believe it would send the wrong message to the democratic party that if trump were to win, maybe the democratic party would understand the working class is for the democratic party should be. if they nominate another billionaire wall street tycoon, i don't know where they would be. host: thank you for the call. patricia says i like bloomberg but i think it would be a mistake to put hillary on the ticket. i love hillary, but people won't vote for her. i think amy would be a better choice. from new jersey, michael. good mornin

if you go back to the perot campaign, as a third party candidate, in 1992, ross perot spent a lot ofaised money but he spent a lot of his own money particularly to get on the ballot, because that is a huge endev fer you don't have an existing political party. but knock like this. we were all aghast at tom steyer's spending befomichael bloomberg got in the race and a candidate using their personal resources to be in the race and then bloomberg bloomberg's not on the ballot in south carolina but he is on the debate stage tuesday night. he was the pinata for everybody in that debate. you know senator sanders is going to be more so and you know bloomberg is going to try to reassert himself. so this debate tuesday night for all of them but for joe biden, bernie sanders, elizabeth warren trying to find her spot, pete buttigieg trying to appeal to african-american voters, bloomberg trying to get his -- prove he belongs on that stage. we have a very interesting fun week ahead. >> and we're standing by to hear from elizabeth warren. she's going to be disappointed in what's happening in nevada

it was just that nobody was willing, say save ross perot or steve forbes to ultimately go ahead and spend significant amount of their own money, but even what they spent then is almost peanuts compared to what michael bloomberg and even tom steyer are spending now. the game has changed. host: want to focus on the work at the center for public integrity. before i do, explain what exactly your group does. we mentioned nonprofit news organization. how are you able to do some of the deep dive reports that you do? where does the money come from? guest: we are a nonprofit news investigation organization. we get our money from foundations that support various causes that are nonprofits, such as us and other nonprofit news organizations, pro publica, texas tribune among them. and also, too, from individuals who just support the work that we do, want to support independent investigative nonprofit journalism that is fundamentally different from commercial journalism that's out there. host: one of your recent reports from earlier this month took a look at 12.9 million democratic party donations to t