he was a ross perot guy. >> ross perot is fine but he gave us bill clinton.g after another one of yours. rachel: they are moving through, they artie moved through your refrigerator, washer, dryer, dishwasher, air conditioner, thermostat, now they are going for gas furnaces and so this is at the direction, this is from energy secretary jennifer granholm, at the direction of congress the department of energy is continuing to review and finalize energy standards for household appliances such as residential furnaces to lower costs for working families, by reducing energy use and cutting carbon pollutants in homes across the nation. also at the department of energy working on ceiling fans, the humidifiers, there is -- battery charger -- there is 0 demand for this in america given all the problems we are facing. it is not the job of the government to pick your home appliances. joe: -- pete: the biden administration has taken 110 actions energy efficiency rules as part of their climate agenda. it's going to be, what was this one? this one is the home furnace, the de

it hurt the republican. >> the ross perot experience he gets 19% of the popular vote, but it's difficult to win the white house in a system that's the electoral college. >> it's very true. you know, it's something that's never really happened. i mean, but we're at a point we've never been in america. we don't know. you know that things change, we have eight months to figure this out. we don't know where we're going to be as a country, who the potential candidates might be, but it may be the first time in our history where the american public is really hungry for something like this. >> people are frustrated with the democrats and republicans, maybe they are looking for an alternative. the no labels, you're the honorary chairman of, have not listed their dopers. do you believe no labels now or at some point in the future is going to have to offer americans clarity about who is spending money on no labels in order to win the public's trust if they want to move forward? >> sure. it's a tax exempt grassroots citizen organization like thousands of others. they're not a political party. they d

neil: ross perot got 19% of the popular vote and in again, out again, back in again candidate.ny electoral votes. that shows the potential of a third-party or independent. >> that is ross perot having money, his billions at that time. julie: make a debate at the time with bill clinton, and that's a tough thing for a third-party candidate to do. >> they do polls, and if you're not in 98% of the polls, how do you get a percentage to be in the debate and if your name was in the polls, giving you were on the ballot in all 50 states, that would have made a huge difference, this is the 10th time i have seen gary johnson's name. need to find who this guy is about and i was speaking about -- neil: very impressed with you. it is a wasted vote the you will take votes away, name the candidate. robert f kennedy junior, about his run, they take votes away from president biden, conservative or moderate type conservative like joe manchin running as a third-party candidate. and the same for donald trump. you are seen in a spoiler roll. is that fair? >> it is a fair criticism but if you were to

>> i actually did ross perot's benchmark., in june he was at 39% -- neil: that's right. >> so, look, you look at the conditions in the country, and nobody's really fighting for the swing voters that i think you really need to fight for. everybody's this their camp, and and as long as everyone is in their camp and if both parties nominate both of these nominees that the majority of the country, you know, is unhappy with, there's going to be a big space there. and how is that space going to be filled? is it going to be a rematch or is something else going to happen? few people remember, actually, in lincoln in 1860, at that time the republican party was the third party. neil: that's right. i remember covering that. it was a very long and involved kind of coverage. thank you for that, guys. appreciate that. some of you are saying this is no way you cover abraham lincoln. yes, i did. >>> all right, we've got a lot more coming up including the issue of crime, that has prison aren to americans' third biggest worry. gianno caldwell

ross perot took votes from george h.w. bush which meant

ross perot got 18% of the vote without winning one state.re, biden or trump? biden, right? >> when i talk to the no labels people they think of a polling from both sides. my logic would say biden, if you run youngkin, that hurts trump. joe manchin -- ashley: have to leave it. fascinating to talk about but we will see if it becomes reality but it will throw a wrench in the whole thing. fascinating stuff. by the way, donald trump's lead growing against his fellow gop candidates, the latest real clear politics average, has him snagging 57. 3% of the republican vote in 2024, ron desantis next with 14.1%. desantis donor lambert joins me now. great to have you here. how big of a difference could this upcoming debate make given that observers say ron desantis was too much in the background in the first debate and needs to bring it on in the second. would you agree with that? >> all the debates are important but governor desantis's best conservative track record on the republican side, he is going to talk about that and his vision for the country. h

ross perot took votes from george h.w.which meant bill clinton one even though perot was more in line with bush on the issues. joe democrats even though both were more aligned with democrats. so, can a third party candidate actually win? or just keep someone else from winning? can a third-party be more than a faint echo of an existing party? do voters really want more options? can a group calling itself nonpartisan stand a chance and an exceedingly partisan landscape? andrew yang knows what it's like to run for president but he knows what it's like to buck the trend and do things differently. he is testing whether america is indeed open to a third party. he joins us now. welcome to you mr. yang. i guess for me it starts with the issues. i mean pick the issue. spending, inflation, social issues, the war in eastern europe. how would a third-party differ from the two existing parties. word is at stake out its position on fill in the blank issue? >> you know trey, thank you for having me on. i really appreciate it. about half

ross perot got 19% and 13% of the votes in 92 and 96 and 0 electoral votes.r the parties throws away votes. in florida ralph nader gave the presidency to george bush. a vote for third parties is a vote for donald trump, i hope they know. >> sandra: democrats are talking about replacing joe biden. a recent headline. forget fantasies about replacing biden. kamala harris can't beat trump saying you can see why i'm not feeling good about the future when the fate of the world defends on the vigor of an octogenarian who looks his age. do you think there are plans to replace joe biden? >> 0, absolutely not. you know this because there is no significant primary for the president. no real democrat has filed against him. he beat donald trump once and he will do it again. these reports are just d.c. speculation fueled by people who would love to be the candidate if joe biden weren't to run. he is running and the democrats' best shot in 2024. >> sandra: a "new york times" piece detailing robert f. kennedy, jr. talking about the libertarian party. a voter asked about his

ross perot had 19% of the votes back in the day k right?5% of the votes if people thought he could win. maria: we will leave it there. great to see you all, thank you so much. see you tomorrow, everybody. david asman in for stu. take it away. stuart: no, i'm right here, maria -- maria: stuart, how did you manage that? stuart: i didn't get much sleep, it's as simple as that. maria: stuart, you did a phenomenal job last night. congratulations. stuart: flattery is the mother's

. >> a less third-party kant had a real impact us ross perot he had a reason to be in the race you got east coast with the country is going to i don't think no labels is where we are right now people are pretty dissatisfied with things they're not looking for comedy in their politics are looking for people to shake things up, break things and try to fix stuff so things are better for them. there is a disconnect between note labels and what grassroots voters think about. jon: you do not think there is a possibility of a third party coming in and stealing the selection for the democrats? >> i don't think so i think any third party personal of the incremental numbers that you always see two or 3%. it will be baked in going into it this is going to be a two-party race and the likely nominee is going to be donald trump versus joe job identicale a rematch. i'm not prepared to say is going to win it i certainly think donald trump could be elected president again. jon: the negatives are pretty high for joe biden at right now pretty hard to get elected when your approval rating is in the high 3

david: ross perot. 19%. >> he didn't win a single state. david: no. but he led to bush's loss are. y. if it hadn't been for ross pero- >> i've had this deep debate with ed rollins for years, and i say exactly what you say. what does rollins say? bill, we crunched the numbers, and it's not the reason why josh bush lost. a. david: all right. final point, independents prefer trump over biden by 10 # points. in late october 2020 they favored biden by 20. aren't independents the key. >> >> bigtime, david. keep your eye on that too, and see where the suburban voters. i thought what abc and nbc did on sunday morning with their polling, as they stated in their own release, however, you go deep into the numbers in both of those polling, and there is troubling news all over the place for joe biden. david: bill hemmer, what a pleasure to see you in person again. >> nice to see you, david. david: catch bill and dana breen know -- perino, of course, on america's newsroom. of course, dana will be one of the participants in the debate tonight. mark, thank you for being here as well. >>> james carv

ross perot had 19% of the votes back in the day k right? exit polls showed he would have gotten a 35% of the votes if people thought he could win. maria: we will leave it there. great to see you all, thank you so much. see you tomorrow, everybody. david asman in for stu. take it away. stuart: no, i'm right here, maria -- maria: stuart, how did you manage that? stuart: i didn't get much sleep, it's as simple as that. maria: stuart, you did a phenomenal job last night. congratulations. stuart: flattery is the mother's milk of television. [laughter] good morning to you, thank you very much, indeed. welcome to "varney & company" coming to you today from simi valley, california. they were all chasing trump. seven candidates hoping to break through, looking for momentum leading to iowa and new hampshire. there were memorable moments, sharp exchanges. so who won, who stood out and who faded? throughout the show you'll see the candidates present themselves. to the markets, plenty of action. treasury yield still up9 setting the market. the 10-year n

we should point out that ross perot was probably the most successful third party candidate in recentle state, but this thing's a little different this year, you know? two very unpopular people -- well, i shouldn't say unpopular. people who the middle wants -- liz: have doubts about. >> yes. liz: charlie, thank you very much. charlie gasparino. >>> is this the precise time to avoid starting a business or the best time? let me check the time on this rare emoji puzzle rolex watch. there are only three of these in the united states. i just stole this one from one of my next three guests. all three killer sharks in their own right. barbara corcoran, damon john and mr. wonderful, kevin o'leary, here onset with me next in a fox business exclusive. i can't wait to do just a big round robin with all of them on so many issues. and he is the best known as the attorney who defended bernie madoff and wolf of wall street jordan belfort. but the back story of ike sorkin is better than a courtroom drama. i've got him in my brand new episode of my everyone talks to liz podcast. prepare to be captivat

>> so first, when people think third party, they immediately go to the presidential because ross perotattorneys, city commissioners who have aligned with forward because they don't want to play the ideological back and forth. they are just trying to get things done for the community and i'm not on team blue or red, but i'm on team constituent. >> i think theoretically most people would say that makes a ton of sense. but hard part is putting the theory into practice. there is pushback from former secretary saying that it seeks to attraction for support by standing for nothing other than disruption. call it the seinfeld party. how do you respond? >> we're trying to improve the lines of people in massachusetts and missouri and people say what are you really. you say you are this, are you a democrat or are you republican. because that is the way that they want to us stay separated and pitted against each other. and that is frankly the way a lot of media want to operate too because they say here is the blue message, here is the red message, here is what the aud y ience wants. but americans

we had a big personality at ross perot at 19% of the vote. nothing in the electoral college.he last two candidates to get both work 1968 george wallace and strom thurmond 1938 both explicit racist running to oppose desegregation. >> who thanks it helps the republicans? >> absolutely one 100%. it is a shadow operation of half of republicans. >> thank you very much. a preview of the chat with a man in the my father didn't know his dad. with ancestry i dug and dug until i found some information. birth certificate. wow. and then you add it to the tree. it's like you discover a new family member. discover even more at ancestry.com i sat down with a pastor. talking about god never gives up on you. you can hear today's program on the "fox news sunday" podcast. download online. that is that for us today. thank you for joining us. have a wonderful week. see you next fox news sunday. ♪ ♪ ♪ mark: hello america i'm mark levin, this is "life, liberty and levin." on sunday, welcome back those of you who watched saturday, we appreciate it. different show. i want to thank you for watching, i

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we had a big personality at ross perot at 19% of the vote. nothing in the electoral college.t both work 1968 george wallace and strom thurmond 1938 both explicit racist running to oppose desegregation. >> who thanks it helps the republicans? >> absolutely one 100%. it is a shadow operation of half of republicans. >> thank you very much. a preview of the chat with a man in the most humans on thete lyplanet. recommend sensodyne. sensodyne toothpaste goes inside the tooth and calms the nerve down. and my patents say: “you know doc, it really works." >> tech: cracked windshield on your new car? bring it to safelite. my customer was enjoying her new car, when her windshield cracked. [gasp] >> customer: my car! >> tech vo: she didn't take it to the dealer. she scheduled with safelite. we have the latest technology for the newest vehicles. and we do more replacements and recalibrations than anyone else. >> customer: thank you so much. >> tech: don't wait-- schedule now. ♪ pop music ♪ >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ where are you going? we have moderate to severe u

president clinton only won because of ross perot. time to do what the republicans want. after all those decades of doing what? doing things the democratic way. and he never he didn't really have legislative sensibilities. my argument in the book he he was not a coalition builder disposition and he tried to smash a lot things through without much regard for even what the senate would think of it, let alone how he would get president clinton on board. he just sort of expected that his moment had arrived and would work out and, you know, the puzzle to me is that model was really not that successful in in, you know, republicans in the mid nineties did not roll the great society. that was their ambition and they failed. welfare reform is the signal where they were. they got something important passed, but by and large, their just failed. but nevertheless, the gingrich model has stuck. and, you know if you look at the idea of of centralized house leadership, of running things from their hip pocket, that was gingrich's idea it was the idea of jim wright who had relentlessly hou

he'd ross perot had taken about 20%. so inside the clinton white house, you can see that they're quite concerned what's going on in california. and after they see what happens in prop 187, you see these internal memos where they're saying we're taking gratuitous hits on immigration. we need to start shifting to a new democrat solution and you start to see that take, you know, what happens in california changes, the national debate, right. it's not just going to other states that are modeling what california does. the national government starts to take the national sort of policy front, starts to shift and you start to see things like ira is part of it. right. but the clinton, for example, even in a less direct way, we're having an ongoing reform debate in the united states until 1993. you look through the early clinton documents, there's no of immigrants access to welfare and any part of clinton's welfare reform plan. then prop 187 passes right. the new the new plan that the clinton administration sort of unveils like th

when ross perot ran got close to 19% did not win a electro vote but one a handful of counties. hard to go against the major party candidates when you are third party. the comparison in 2016 and that election clinton and trump had bad favorability and a big block of voters didn't like either. 94% of all voters voted for either clinton or trump in only 6% voted third party. i don't think he would see that big of a third party vote. -- i don't think you would see that big of a third party vote. definitely worth watching. a liberal intellectual is running for the seat. voters may be just not liking the major party nominees but you wouldn't expect the vast majority of voters to come to the major party nominees. host: shall in arizona, independent line -- michelle in arizona, independent line. caller: i live in tucson and i don't see anything being done about the border crisis. i didn't vote for biden but i am not going to do that. i will be voting for trump. i see nothing happening. i feel as though it is at my back door. are any other voters feeling the same as i and are going to c