one of it was ross perot, an independent presidential candidate.e have a clip of him from the second presidential debate in 1992. we will play at and i will talk about it on the other site. mr. perrault: we have to stop sending jobs overseas. for you in the audience who are business people, pretty simple. if you are paying $14 an hour to factory workers and you can move your factory south of the border, pay a dollar an hour for labor, have no health care -- that is the most expensive single element -- have no environmental controls, no pollution controls, and no retirement, and you don't care about anything but making money, there will be a giant sucking sound going south. if the people send me to washington the first thing i will do is study that 2000-page agreement and make sure it is a two-way street. one last point here. i decided i didn't understand it so i called the folks who have been around and said, why won't everybody go south? i finally got them up for 12 to 15 years and said, how does it stop in disruptive? when their

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or the delegation from arkansas was ross perot in the lobby. and it wasn't certainly to be any kind of big story that any of you were ever going to read. but he probably felt responsibility to cover it. and he's thinking, i got this kid here who says he can go. so he gives me the assignment and i go to this hotel. i think it was about 57th or 58th street in new york. and i interview all these people, i come back, i file the story. he edits it and he puts on the system. no one ever read that story. no newspaper picked it up. but i actually did my first piece of real world journalism there and so so tell us about that. that, you know, that moment because i mean, you know anyone the new ali during that period would have said this is a guy destined for politics. this is somebody who is you know, i remember being we were in model parliament together, were in the house of commons, you know, that stuff and looking around saying, you know, this is, you know, the natural of things. but of course, as we all as life evolves, many different trajectories em

gore had a debate with ross perot on cnn, on the larry king show as part of the selling of nafta. gore trotted out every nobel prize person supported it. and the expertise that was supporting it. whereas perot was a plain folk person who represented the opposition to that elite sort of consensus. i think there was a very important speech in the house over the debate. david as i mentioned earlier, he really crystallized the rejection of this elite expertise. and to a lot of people, it was plain as day. and a lot of their fears proved to be correct impressions. and at the time, perot was sort of mocked for raising these issues. and also his style and so on. but in the end, both parties, i think it is empirically true that it has changed the country. the more widely shared working-class prosperity that existed, nafta helped unravel that. you have tremendous income inequality now and nafta was part of that trend. i think perot now is viewed very differently. and i think both parties have reoriented themselves away from these free-trade deals. the republican side rhetorical -- president

but he also takes takes from ross perot. the fact that there have been times when we have been taken advantage of because of our good nature, because of our goodwill, because of the free market that exists within the united states. but for that reason, he wants to bring as many companies as possible into the united states, say, come and enjoy our very low tax rates. the low regulation rates that you're going to see compared to other countries or compared to what you saw during the biden administration. so that's what he's doing. he's throwing open the doors of the united states to enterprise and capital to come into the united states. that's going to build our economy and get our growth going to the point where we can lick the problems of the debt and lick the problems that we have now of a of a relatively stagnant economy. let's get your take, steve, and more. and you can compare and contrast. also, you know, the whole idea. look for example at ford motor company, the thing i love about the auto industry and the uaw, these

have served in prior republican administrations, and greatest group of business executives from ross perotk. and across, steve. you have greatest of the best. they are giving us names, they then give us names, every walks into this administration. will be vouched for. ceo. i said wha when do you turn 63, what is your next move? why don't you serve, take this chance, he said why? i do i don't know, run the office of management budget, the cfo for the united states of america, 6 1/2 trillion dollar budget, that sounds like a cool job. larry: a big job. >> he runs a hundred billion dollar company, and calls me said okay i'm in. we'll -- we'll have greatest set of athletes, the best. we will balance the budget, we'll make this greatest administration ever. he has one term, we'll hit the ground hard and fast it will be amazing. larry: howard lutnick, terrific stuff thank you so much. >> coming up next on c kudlow, why are democrats trying to keep illegal noncitizens on voter rolls and justice department going after virginia. we'll talk about that is senator tommy tuberville, and former secretar

he is his own person and takes from reagan the free market and he takes from ross perot the fact therewhere we've been taken advantage of because of our good nature and goodwill and the free market it the united states and you must bring as many companies into the united states to enjoy your low tax rates the low regulation rates and that is what he's doing froze open the doors of the united states to enterprising capital to come into the united states and get our growth going to the point where we can with lists -- like the problem so the debt we have no of a stagnant economy and you can compare and contrast also the thing i love about the oil industry and in a single year and doesn't the put hyper paying career jobs in jeopardy and that's right. and you've got the biden-harris administration there with car companies to make cars that customers don't want $40,000 per car. tell me how you make money on that. i watched almost the entire performance today by trump in chicago and as you might know chicago is my hometown and you also know chicago is a democratic city. i watched the whole t

he never, ever looks -- first of all, he never has a chart, and he does ross perot and brings a chartwd. it's a very transaction aal relationship. they feed off of him, he feeds off of them. for whatever decision, reason he made, and i talked to him the next day afterwards, he turned to his head away from the crowd. had he not done that, that bullet would have went through his head so, yeah, it was definitely manager -- there was a higher power in that moment. and he and i talked about that the next day. he felt as though that he had -- this was a moment for him that god was in that presence, and he felt very blessed. if. pete: absolutely. we're blessed to have you with us on the show today. ma'am, you were also there on july13th. why are you here today? >> because i have to finish what we started. i was 12 rows from stage, and the two gentlemen that were shot were 202 feet away from me. -- 20 the feet. i absolutely believe that god was with him and protected him in that moment. pete: well said. sir, or you were here also? >> yes, sir. pete: why are you here today? >> i wouldn't mismi

kind of searching -- is he just a populist, is he a free market -- is kind of a combination of ross perot if you remember he was a very anti-free trade agreement with mexico, then after act as it was called back then. and ronald reagan who is a big free trader for schmidt so he's got a little bit of something for everybody but he also has a little bit of something for everybody to hate. particularly big business, big corporations in the native states who hated what he had to say about trade today because he was kind of upping the ante on reciprocity. reciprocity simply means that for tap periods china has 100% tariff on cars we give them one of the present tariffs. if gives us 20% tariffs on something will -- >> martha: why shouldn't we? >> exactly. but this meant a suggested that he would go a little bit beyond that, they would actually up the ante for an entire industry for example if you wanted to build the industry strong -- that has a lot of people in chamber of commerce, the other big corporate interests concerned about what that would mean to trade in general around the world. and

she voted for ross perot and that is another story but that will still happen. women saying in wisconsin, you don't have to tell your husband. we can be your secret, just go around him and vote your conscience. i think it is so fundamental, women's healthcare. women are being denied basic healthcare. last night at that rally what we saw, it was electrifying, it was soul shattering to listen to mothers talk about their struggles. and the beyonce really brought it all home >> you know, the three of you really bring up an essential element of this conversation and this closing conversation that is very much underappreciated by republicans. we have seen the narrative play out in kansas, in ohio and in a number of places where abortion has been on the ballot. for example, the response by women, especially republican women, has not aligned with the narrative the men are pushing out. i think it is a sleeper to your point, elise, going into this election and then the next 10 days or so. >> play e 3 of andrea telling her story. >> texas abortion bans unleashed by donald

i lean on chuck schwab, i lean on ross perot, right? i lean across the board. the greatest lawyers, the greatest technologists, and say, help me. let's build the greatest administration ever. and then they give me people, and everybody must be vouched for. i call it genealogy. you're not walking into this administration unless some rock star says, this guy's great. this woman is fantastic. across the board. it will be the greatest administration billionaires willing to sell everything and come and work the ceo of $100 billion company, he's helping me and i said, come on, you're 62. what's your next move? i go, are you going to make a couple of hundred million dollars mor? how about you serve america and you do it now under donald trump? see, the key is donald trump would let us bring in the greatest people in america to help him and to build it together, because he's a businessman. and kamala harris, she will just have the swamp all around her. she'll just be in the perfect. how did that work out? she's the swamp in every way, and this will be the greatest set

if today we might go back to ross perot as being one in 92 who who really shook up the race. wallace did in 68, i think wallace is fascinating for another reason, because he really made, i think, what we would call racist statements in his rise to power in 62 and 63 when he was first elected governor and alabama. but he got his first taste of national politics in three primaries in 64 and a taste of national politics means you have to moderate your message and create a message that's appealing in all kinds of different parts of the country. so by 68, wallace was running really running his his first full bore 50 state campaign as a third party candidate. he got on the ballot in all 50 states. i think robert kennedy jr. will tell you how difficult it is to do that. and so that was playbook has been one that third party candidates i think have borrowed from from ever since. and in order to find the message. wallace wasn't just running a campaign. he was really creating a movement, anti-elite, anti-establishment, anti-media, that i think probably any populist on both sides of the

top republicans in the united states of america from, from steve schwarzman to chuck schwab to ross perot. the list 150. they then vouched for five people each and say, look these five people, we really trust that 750 people. and then those people, each game between five and ten people the transition. so all vouch for no interviews. someone like, you know, someone you vouch for them and you say this is a first-class person, then you think about it this like 5,000 people than i have the greatest teams in national security in economics who know the white house are no domestic policy and they go through all those people and they put them in the various jobs in the various positions. and we have really at the top positions between five and eight of the greatest candidates you've ever seen, ever seen. and then i go back because what i do, i go back for the top hundred and 50 people and say come on, how you serve. and they say no, i don't really want to serve and to go when you're having direct conversations with people about these potential high-ranking positions, cabinet secretaries, west win

we had populism in 92 with pat buchanan and ross perot.a pipe was aback and 68 with george wallace. we have pipe was back in the 1930s with huey long. this is not new. we should not be shocked that this happened. this periodically happened in american history when the average person, the average guy, she's got the shaft, it's hard to raise her family, it's hard to get the job, it's hard to get ahead. >> one ofop the things we studid by this movement in american history is akin to arise when there is great skepticism about so-called beliefs. that's a term we hear thrown around quite a lot. the elites and perception that the elites whoever they are our corrupt and that they are running this country to their own advantage and not to the advantage of interest of the average american. what do you think of those kinds of claims. do you think there is a kind of coterie of elites are running things to their own interests? >> historically, as you point out populism happens when people feel that they areth otherwise t being heard. movement again, ju

we had populism in 92 with pat buchanan and and ross perot. we had populism back in 68 with george wallace. we had populism back in the 1930s with huey long. this is not new. we should not be shocked that this happens. this periodically happens in american history when the average person, the average guy feels he's gotten the shaft. she's gotten the shaft. it's hard to raise her family. it's hard to keep a job. it's hard to get ahead. you know, one of the things, if you study populist movements in american history is they tend to arise when there is great skepticism about the so-called elites. and that's a term that we hear thrown around quite a lot. you know, the elites and perception that the elites, whoever they are, are corrupt and that they're running this country to their own advantage. and not to the advantage or the interests of the average american. what do you think of those kinds of claims? do you think there is a kind of coterie of elites who are running things to their own interests, you know? well, historically, as you point out,

ross perot's running mate, 1992. he said who am i? why am i here, on the debate stage. the overriding thing with stockdale, 13/27. most people didn't have an opinion of him. those who did, he was under water by 14 points. outside of stockdale, there's only one other lower than jd vance, one major party nominee in the last ten who had a worse net favorable score, dan quayle, 1992. quayle was running for re-election at that point. he was 26% positive, 56% negative. if you remember in the summer of '92, there was an effort by some of george h.w. bush's brain trust to get quayle to step down from the ticket. they didn't succeed. this is what it looked like for quayle when he took the stage against stockdale and al gore. negative 30 was his net favorable score. the only major party nominee, that's the only major party nominee in the last ten cycles with a lower net favorable than vance. walz's numbers aren't the best ever, but vance's are certainly much lower than his. from an image standpoint, vance comes to the stage with more work to do. >> looking at that last page there

from arkansas was meeting must flow -- ross perot meeting must flow -- ross perot it wasn't going to be a big story but he probably felt some responsibility to covered. he thinking about this kid who said he can go. gives me the assignment. i go to this hotel, i interview all these people. . a comeback, file the story. he edits it. and he puts on the system. no one ever reddit and newspaper ever picked it up. but i actually did my first piece of real world journalism there. >> tell us about that moment. anyone who knew ali during this period would've said this is a guy destined for politics. we were in the house of commons doing that stuff and looking around saying, this is the natural trajectory of things. of course, as life evolves, many different trajectories emerge. journalism really called to during that period. >> it really did. it's not weird that it did because what did those of us who like politics consume all the time? we consumed the news. the important people told you, who guided you and gave you the information you required to be an informed member of the electorate upon

or the delegation from arkansas was ross perot in the lobby. it wasn't certainly to be any kind of big story that any of you were ever going to read. but he probably felt responsibility to cover it. and he's thinking, i got this kid here who says he can go. so he gives me the assignment and i go to this hotel. i think it was about 57th or 58th street in new york. and i interview all these people, i come back, i file the story. he edits it and he puts on the system. no one ever read that story. no newspaper picked it up. but i actually did my first piece of real world journalism there and so so tell us about that. that, you know, that moment because i mean, you know anyone the new ali during that period would have said this is a guy destined for politics. this is somebody who is you know, i remember being we were in model parliament together, were in the house of commons, you know, that stuff and looking around saying, you know, this is, you know, the natural of things. but of course, as we all as life evolves, many different trajectories emerge

you got ross perot in energy, chuck schwab doing finance.building and creating for donald trump the greatest group of people who will ever walk on the field for ministration. i spent sunday, two hours with elon musk. i mean, i put out a tweet talking about what we did. you know, i'm a social media star, of course. 43 million views talking about how we are going to pay for everything the donald trump talks about. he is going to take $1 trillion out of the budget deficit a year because we waste. we have a $6.5 trillion budget deficit. $6.5 trillion budget. can we get back to the experts, to they have to agree with everything the former president says? >> if you think of it like a ceo of the company, if the ceo of the united states of america. let's call it united states incorporated. you can argue all you want, but when the boss says this is what we are going to do, do you have a problem doing with the boss is you're going to do? you can quit or you can execute the plan. this concept of doing what you want to do because i don't think he is rig