this is ross wheatley. i'm with the coast guard and i have a few questions for clarification, if you could. you indicated during -- >> would you say your name again, please? >> ross wheatley. >> thank you. >> yes, sir. as i recall your name correctly, you indicated that at ap prox approximately 9:00, a group of the v.i.p.'s went up to the bridge, is that correct? >> i hesitate to call myself a v.i.p. but i was there with pat o'brien and don winslow, transocean, and the catch captain of the vessel and several other of the marine department were there. >> ok. and while you were on the bridge, you indicated that some of the personnel participated in use of the simulator, is that correct? >> that is correct. >> whos was given the instruction on how to use the simulator? >> the joy joystick has ocean conditions programmed in that exert forces on a simulated picture of the rig and try to force it off location and use a joystick to try to keep it within a watch circle. >> was the captain participating in this exer