then she told me another story how rostenkowski was sitting across from her. this must have been 82 and the economy was suddenly starting to turn after a very bad first year. the first thing she said to the president was they don't call it reaganomics anymore. [laughter] we had moved to washington and we were going to buy a house. mortgage rates were up in the 20s or 19 to 21. we had just sold the house in syracuse at 5% and it was 7% when we left and expected to buy a home here at 19% and anyway it was unbelievable and the unemployment and the rest. you can go back and look at the facts. reagan used to call them misery facts. and you remember his slogan or his question at the debate with carter was are we better off? are you better off than you were four years ago? this was when he was getting elected against carter. okay there are 100 stories about that too that is what i liked about this, i came back to get my report to the president and we had a moment together. i said mr. president my wife thinks you are so gallant and i recall the story. you came over in

then she told me another story how rostenkowski was sitting across from her. this must've been, what, 82, and the economy suddenly starting to turn after a very bad first year. and karen said, the first thing she said to the president was, i noticed the mr. president, they don't call it reaganomics anymore. [laughter] what she meant wise one willy moved washington, you had to buy house and rates, mortgage rates were up in the 20s, 19, 21. we just sold a house in syracuse when we had 5%, 7% when the left. we expected to buy a home here for 19%, and anyway, it was unbelievable. and the unemployment and the rest, you can go back and look at the facts, which is what reagan used to call the misery affects. you member the question at the debate with carter was -- are we better off -- are you better off than you were four years ago? you know, this was again when his getting elected against carter. okay, there are 100 stories about that, too, but what i liked about this, i came back to get my report to the president, and we had a moment together. i said, mr. president