today, well, i have been working for 22 years at rostselmash.remember drawing boards, that is, these drawing boards are gone. we are back in the nineties. e, but for the last 3 years, we have been transferring from the design system from two-dimensional to three-dimensional design, which also accelerated, e, the pace of reliable design e, we already immediately in the design process see the compatibility of the nodes, the geometric physical compatibility of the units, immediately much, it is better to read the strength characteristics designs. uh, this is it, uh, we are sitting on the siemens program, like kamaz, we spent 270 million rubles on it. 2 years ago paid that a big amount for us. the second second principle is digital manufacturing flexible manufacturing. they said that the conveyor is required monotonous labor. uh emasculates a person. today, no monotonous work. no, it can’t be, each car individually practically has its own characteristics. moreover, i repeat the models often change on the assembly line and the employee must quickly r

this is all the task of the company, rostselmash, we are our uh guys, and we are coping with this, but what i already said sap tim center is the program on which we sit in microsoft design, these are all companies, uh, that left the market today. we would like to replace these products with russian ones. but this is well , firstly today, until we see such a full-fledged replacement, firstly, secondly, this requires capital. e capital investment. well, if there are any benefits, i don’t know support there. eh, the financial creators of these programs are analogues of these programs, then, of course, we support this activity with everything we can and will try to achieve complete independence of our country in programs. that's all and i repeat this should be commercially interesting. so i know in relation to component manufacturers, if you can buy in china or germany for 30% or 20 or even 10% cheaper than doing it yourself, then you can to convince to force to check, but if it’s more profitable to bring, then well, it won’t be, they won’t be produced in russia. that's why we need commerc