rotenberg. >> guest: all right. so this is a good, lively discussion and, you know, let's take up this second point which is the third-party disclosure to commercial actors. and you, as i understand your argument, you want to give a lot of credit to google for not disclosing user information to third parties. and the obvious answer is that google is dominant across so many essential internet services, it doesn't matter whether it discloses the information to third party. what matters is the sharing within the large internet firm in the world between an e-mail service, between a video platform, between a mapping service, between a photo-sharing service. all of these are google services. and what google does by combining that information is to consolidate its no knop position. it would -- monopoly position. it would be adverse to google's position to disclose user information the third parties because google is not interested in creating competitors or creating choice for users of current google services. it's complet

. >> also joining us on "the communicators" is marc rotenberg. mr. rosenberg, what is your groups view on the new policy? >> we opposed it. we think that the right way to think about what google did in terms of the change and service, in other words, before march 1, google had different terms of service for each of their products. if you were using e-mail, it collected your personal information to provide e-mail service. if you were using youtube, it collected your information to provide youtube service. the google wanted to do combine that information from its different products, and so as of march 1, the terms of service were going to change. they would combine all the data, they did not give people a choice. they could essentially stop you from googling. we objected, as do many others. >> what is the damage that could be done to a user? >> in the first instance, there is genuine concern about the companies commitment to users -- the company's commitment to the privacy of users. those privacy policies are collected in the terms of service, essentia

. >> also joining us here is mark rotenberg from the electronic information privacy center. bhas your view on the new google privacy policy. >> we opposed it. we think the right thing to think about is the change of service. before march 1st google had different terms for each of its products. if you were using email for example it collected your personal information to provide an email service, if you were using youtube it collected your information to provide the youtube service, what google want to do was combine all that user information from all its different products so it simply told users that as of march 1st, the terms of service were going to change, it would combine all the data, it didn't give people a choice. they could essentially stop using google which for most people i think means stop using the internet and we objected as did many others. >> well, what's the damage that would be done to a use erred of google? >> well, i think in the first instance there's a genuine concern here about the company's commitment to users, the company's commitment to the privacy

from the judge rotenberg center treating emotionally disturbed students. >> ah! >> and what we're hearing is the screaming and the pleading of an 18-year-old autistic student at the school, andrei mccaulens. he's scream, pleading, riving in pain face down with a helmet on. apparently shocked 31 times on this day over seven hours, in what the school is calling treatment for aggressive behavior. >> this is shock treatment? >> this video is from 2002, from ten years ago, but it's just coming to the surface now, because there's been a big battle over this clip for the past eight years. eight years ago the school convinced a judge to keep this video hidden. >> hmm. >> concealed from the public, until now. because it's being used as evidence in a urtroom and mccaulens fam suing this school saying that this was flat out torture, and fox 25 in boston had their cameras in the courtroom and the judge allowed them to record this video and put it on their air. they're the first ones to of record and capture these images. >> if it was some sort of legal treatment, they'd have

. >> markum erickson and marc rotenberg on google's privacy policy, tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern, on the communicators on c-span2. >>> next, a panel discussion on women in the 2012 vote and efforts being made to get women to the polls this november, and issues important to women such as reproduction rights and contraception. this is a little more than an hour. >> all right, if everyone can take their seats, we're going to start the afternoon session of the women, money, power forum. again, my name is cathy siller. i'm really thrilled to be able to moderate this panel. you're going to be hearing from some of the many feminist leaders who have come together in the her vote coalition to fight to preserve the most significant gains that women have made that are all at stake in next election. welcome, and welcome to our c-span audience. we're live on c-span. this is the women, money, and power forum, sponsored by the feminist majority and 51 women's rights, labor, and civil rights organizations. welcome. i'm going to just briefly describe the her vote coalition, and you're goi