bill rothstein, marjorie diehl-armstrong.another suspect, a crack dealer named kenneth barnes. and barnes claimed brian wells was in on the plot from the beginning and that he was duped. >> wells was essentially told he would be robbing the bank, but the device that was being put around his neck would be fake so he would not be putting himself in harm's way. as it turns out, he was double-crossed. >> criminologist jim fisher believes it was rothstein who wanted to pull off the perfect diabolical crime that would baffle investigators. the elaborate scavenger hunt would send them to a dead-end. the confusing, yet meticulously crafted collar bomb, even the white t-shirt brian wells wore into the bank spray painted with the word "guess." to fisher, all of it hatched in the mind of a madman. >> the kind of motive we can understand, like a standard bank robbery, someone needs the money. then we have a category of crime involving motives that a normal person can't really understand. >> you're describing bill rothstein? >> that would

paul rothstein? guest: there's a point to that. be careful secessionists, you may get what you want. and that might be bad for you. the hurricane example. that is one. if it did happen, there would have to be, and there would be agreement between the new country and the united states that might provide for economic aid in situations like that. it would be enacted state interest to keep that country friendly to prevent foreign invasions and things like that. they had that trouble in england with ireland. host: many cite the declaration of independence and their reasoning or in their process for declaring that they want to secede from the united states. how does that work? guest: the declaration of independence was a secession from england. so they say, what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. he said that it showed that there was a union of these states, strong in the salvable union that they all get together to sign a declaration of independents and the united states eventually, the artic

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professor rothstein, your reaction. guest: and natalie, natalie's talking about a notification which is closely allied to secession. he refused to follow the federal law but used a part of the union. the constitution forbids that. there is a supremacy clause that says a federal law has to be followed, it is supreme. that would be punishable. i do not think it is possible to stay in the union and have nullification. abraham lincoln argued from the supremacy clause that there can be no secession because federal law is supreme. there are some flaws with that argument. i saw the new abraham lincoln movie. it is absolutely terrific. but it does show you that he bent the law very much in order to get, accomplish the vision he had. every once in awhile and history somebody comes along with that kind of vision. and it does show that some of these things are not subtle -- settleable by law. host: other than the fact that secession did not work for those states that wanted to do that in the 1860's, what other lessons can be taken

we are joined by a the georgetown law professor paul rothstein.ll be taking your calls, e- mail, and tweets beginning at 7:00 a.m. eastern. >> the constitution gives us our identity. the constitution gives us our identity, our self-esteem, defines our purpose, defines our mission, defines who we are as the people. we come from many ethnicities, nationalities, religions. and yet we are bound together as one people because of our allegiance and our respect and our reverence for the constitution, and this is the link, the thai, the bond -- the tie, the bond to our history and our heritage that is almost unique in the world. e that we have to the constitution that defines us gives us stability and the purpose and mission to our people. and it is the envy of the rest of the world. >> tonight, watch supreme court justice anthony kennedy talking about protecting and preserving the constitution from the heritage foundation. see that at 8:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. coming up next, a professional golfer arnold palmer received the congressional gold med

rebecca rothstein. kelly right, fox news. i will skip our speaker. teen cancer survivor and mother of three. suzanne, speaker committee member who organized in london. dr. glen taylor, teen cancer america's medical advisor report and gas to the speaker. niki schwab, the examiner. justin, the vinyl district. >> hunter brooks, and best of our speaker. thank you all very much for joining us today. [applause] it's not often i get to introduce the us here at the national press club the played at the original woodstock concert in 1969, made an apparent of the summer olympics closing ceremony in london earlier this year, and who played before thousands of fans at every concert. these are not ordinary guests. for more than 40 years, roger daltrey has been entertaining fans. today they are here to talk about and discuss their latest collaboration, who cares? teen cancer america. pete townshend is best known as the lead guitarist and primary song writer for the who, named by rolling stone magazine as one of the top-10 greatest tourist of all times. he has writ

rebecca rothstein, chair of teen cancer america. kelly right, fox news. skip our speaker here for just a moment. alice and its chairman, a teen cancer survivor and mother of three. dr. glen taylor, a teen cancer america's medical advisory board and guest of the speaker. niki schwab, the examiner. tim smith, baltimore sun. hunter brooks, a cancer survivor and guest of our speaker. thank you for joining us today. it's not often i get to introduce the us here at the -- guests here at the national press club the played at the original woodstock concert in 1969, made an apparent of the summer olympics closing ceremony in london earlier this year, and who played before thousands of fans at every concert. these are not ordinary guests. for more than 40 years, roger daltrey has been entertaining fans. pete townsend has collaborated with him on rock music. today they are here to talk about and discuss their latest collaboration, who cares? teen cancer america. pete townshend is best known as the lead guitarist and primary song writer for the who, named by rolling