i was rountree web 1.0 in 2.0 out in palo alto, amazing times and so much julie written about that. before joining the staff at wired she worked for the "new york times" editorial op-ed columnist for the "l.a. times." she also, like batya, has a phd in this phd is from harvard. she likes to say that she stumbled onto the internet in 1979 in the back office then for pervasive and i can't wait to hear views on this. and finally thomas chatterton williams who's also a a fellow with me at the american enterprise institute, a columnist for harpers magazine and a contributing writer for the "new york times" magazine. he has influenced quite a bit of my thinking and my students thinking. his memoir, self-portrait in black and white, i'm learning race, , created i would say at least three, to our seminars of exchange exchanges my students and i thank you for that. it's such a provocative a wonderful of work. his essays can be found all over the place including the best american essays anthology. he has his ma in cultural reporting criticism from nyu and his ba in philosophy from georgetown.