on this heroes night, what a deserving here rove.why we created the tide "loads of hope" program, a free laundry service that provides clean clothes to families affected by disasters. [ woman ] it feels so good to be able to know that i've got clean clothes. you don't know how very basic essentials are until you have none. ♪ this is what gives us hope. [ female announcer ] you, too, can help familie affected by disaster by purchasing yellow-cap tide. together we can provide loads of hope. >> larry: we're saluting heroes. and looksing at famous people and who are heroes to them. matthew mcconaughey is with us. the founder of the j.k. liven foundation. who's your hero? >> who's my hero? i have to start with my cad and mom. pop taught a lot of self-reliance. they were a couple of outlaws. they used to say, i love you, but i don't like you. and it really was a good example for them. they were married three times, divorced twice from each other. so they were very resilient, you know? heroes, growing up, my older brother, pat, was a hero.

. >> the author is john maxwell hamilton, the book is journalisms roving eye. >>> .. >> better-known as the sugar ray robinson and the author is wil haygood. >> >> guest: agreed to be here. >> host: it is a worthy of sugar ray robbins said tremendous achievement. you are not a sports bar for her by trade why did you decide to spend five years of your life right to about sugar ray robinson? >> guest: i had two previous batteries when a big congressmen and the other was sammy davis, jr. part by thought if i could find another subject that interested me, i would have a trilogy three major biographies and one is a politician one is the entertainer i wanted a sports figure but i wanted an athlete who transcended their sport and as someone who had a life vest fascinating in the ring because we talk about a boxer equally a fascinating life outside of the ring and i wanted somebody who was known by have a lot of mystery around his life and 4b common that was sugar ray robinson and. >> he is one of the most underwritten boxers of the 20th century considering every major boxing writer would co

. >> david rove book about it. so he should do it. >> the solicitor general is a creature of congress. at that time, the attorney general was the principal person who argue for representing the united states in cases before the court. at the time there was so much litigation and fragmentation. oftentimes, the u.s. attorney's individually would represent themselves, and it would often take positions in the justice system -- the justices have had enough of that. they made it known they wanted the government to speak with one voice. so as part of the creation of the department of justice, it covers for the statute that there should be an office "learned in law," and the solicitor general with -- would take litigation matters as the attorney general should find. by tradition, overtime, the solicitor general's office has secreted the duty of representing the united states and agencies in the supreme court so that disputes about interpretation of wall -- the law can be resolved before the government takes the position of

bush was so weak and some bush and rove understood the importance of hispanics. the problem wasn't just the failed policies but also the missed opportunities which are very real tragedy for his presidency and this was one and hispanics got that message. they voted democrat tim big numbers putting a hispanic judge on the court was important and immigration reform also matters in terms of sustaining it. >> the other question about the cuban boat, may be affected by the generation? >> exactly because of the fidel castro came to power in 1959. we are now to the second into the third generation. that issue has less resonance and as it does the importance of that vote in florida for the republicans has diminished, is diminishing in part because the issue itself seems to be fading and certainly the latest generation cuban-americans off to other things. >> how will the demographics affect the rise of a third-party , an effective third-party? >> obama's biggest problem is of the republicans -- this problem is populism. and it comes from the implosion of the republican par

musical here rove. great man. and my big brother, herbie, was a great hero of mine.you've got your -- i've watched some football and baseball and have those sports guys. >> larry: did you have a musical hero? >> again, my dad really is the first guy that comes to mind because he was a great musician. still a great musician, great singer, great man. and i listened to a lot of different styles of music. there was actually a guy, very few people will know the name, but a guy named dallas holmes. he was sort of my musical mentor in a lot of ways. a guy i used to watch. >> larry: do you have a hero now? >> yeah, i do. i've got some new heroes after the last year and a half. last time we were together we talked about billy graham. of course, he's a great man, reached out to us in our time of loss. a lot of dear friends that reached out to us. but, you know, my family, my wife has become an amazing hero of mine, watching her take this journey. my son, all of my kids, but my son will franklin, he's the bravest, most courageous guy on the planet as far as i'm concerned. >> la

louisiana state university and former correspondent you have written a new book called journalism's roving of the eye. why don't you tell about your own journalism first. this is a history of foreign reporting. when did americans go outside their borders and start reporting from foreign countries? >> how americans actually going abroad in an organized and consistent way didn't happen until the end of the 19th century. but as i make the case in this book american for and reporting began really in the colonial period. in fact that is the high point of american -- for news and american papers. there were not foreign correspondents, there were journalists but people that wrote letters home and colonial printers ran down to the ports of returning ships came in and they took newspapers off the ships and reprinted the stories abroad. so foreign news reporting goes back a long way. but the idea of foreign reporting as we know with real foreign correspondents in an organized fashion is a relatively recent concept. >> you talk about the key players in tough foreign correspondents. can you talk about

. >> steve, did karl rove when you in the 2004 campaign make a conscious decision with the candidate to play more to the base? and then when you had the 2008 mccain campaign, did you make a conscious decision not to go that route? >> i've always thought that the strategy in 2004 was mischaracterized in that it was played to the base. we did well in the center of the electorate. and part of the strategy that karl rove and ken mehlman put in place was to turn out every available republican voter. pre-president bush campaigns republicans were lacking in our turnout mechanisms, compared to the unions, compared to the democratic party. and they took a great leap forward. and it was a very successful program. in the same way that the obama campaign took a great leap forward and organizing voters and using social media to turn out, you know, to turn out supporters in 2008. but it was never the strategy of the push campaign to turn out every return in the country. both political parties, you know, when you go into an election, you want to turn out every available vote ner your party. and we

karl rove is coming out with a book. it's coming in march. are people going to remember who he is by then? will there be book signings in prison for him? what do you think about that? >> "going rove." i like it. >> i like that. >> "going rover." >> i mean -- >> courage and ambition. courage and consequence. >> it's called courage and consequence? yeah. >> because ignorance and fallout was already taken by somebody else. >> so was labidicous. >> what do you think, s.e.? >> i think it's going to be great. >> it will be great. >> i'm there. i'll be first in line. >> thank you very much, everybody. >>> up next, nancy grace joins me once more. >>> she is one of the most recognizable names on tv. she's a victim's right advocate. she's a best. selling author and she's back with me. hln's own nancy grace. author of the best selling novel "the eleventh victim." so, nancy, we've talked enough about these crime stories, although i don't really know how you sleep. don't these stories just go in your head round and round? >> well, joy, sometimes i don't k

karl rove is coming out with a book. it's coming in march. are people going to remember who he is by then? will there be book signings in prison for him? what do you think about that? >> "going rove." i like it. >> i like that. >> "going rover." >> i mean -- >> courage and ambition. courage and consequence. >> it's called courage and consequence? yeah. >> because ignorance and fallout was already taken by somebody else. >> so was labidicous. >> what do you think, s.e.? >> i think it's going to be great. >> it will be great. >> i'm there. i'll be first in line. >> thank you very much, everybody. >>> up next, nancy grace joins me once more. >>> she is one of the most recognizable names on tv. she's a victim's right advocate. she's a best. selling author and she's back with me. hln's own nancy grace. author of the best selling novel "the eleventh victim." so, nancy, we've talked enough about these crime stories, although i don't really know how you sleep. don't these stories just go in your head round and round? >> well, joy, sometimes i don't k

. >> did karl rove make a conscious decision with the candidate to play more to the base? when you had the 2008 mccain campaign, did you make a conscious decision not to go that route? >> i always felt that our strategy in 2004 was mischaracterized, that it was plain to the base. we did well in the center of the electorate. part of the strategy in that karl rove and can melviken mel n played was to turn at every possible republican voter. republicans were lacking in our turnout voting mechanisms. they took a great leap forward. it was a very successful program, in the same way that the obama campaign organized voters and used social needed to turnout its supporters in 2008. but it was never the strategy of the bush campaign to seek the middle of the electorate and turnout every republican in the country. both political parties, when you go into an election, you want to turnout every available voter in your party. on the tactical level, we were able to do that effectively. but that does not displease the necessity of trying to win the center of the electorate. -- that does

you did have the white house counsel negotiate between the first branch of our government and karl rove, a common criminal and a fox news pundit. adult me to be redundant. [laughter] >> who partially complied with the subpoena. and then they post it later after the lawyers. outrageous. and now they don't, they haven't issued any subpoenas because they know that this justice department won't enforce them anymore than the last one and they are terrified of enforcing it themselves. so they have no powers. who knows what it here to contempt means? raise your hand. it's not the feeling in your stomach when dick cheney comes on television. [laughter] >> two people may be. this means that congress has the inherent power to preserve its existence through contempt citations, through the capitol police. through jail cells on capitol hill. tell your congress member about it. they may not have heard it. so the powers that have been consolidated in the white house, a quick overview i would say, include power to make laws, the power to make wars, the power to spend money, the power to make treaties w

. >>> the roving protest movement, the tea party express, makes its last stop in orlando tonight, finishing second cross country tour. it was billed as the countdown to judgment day. this was the rally in atlanta that happened on monday. the house's $1.2 trillion health care reform bill a big issue at these protests. but house democrats say the bill will actually reduce the deficit. >>> lou dobbs is leaving cnn. on last night's show he said he is leaving the network effective immediately. over the past few years he has taken a stand on hot topics like immigration. he says he's going to look for other ways to play a more active role on the issues facing the nation. those are some of the stories we're following for you as we start a thursday. >>> every year an average of 11 u.s. commercial pilots try to fly under the influence of alcohol. "usa today" says faa records show it's been happening since 1997. and the agency is currently reviewing the case of a united airlines pilot arrested in london on monday suspected of being drunk on the job. so fairly common, perhaps. >>> a drug bust turned in

part of the strategy that call rovkarl rove was to turn out of every republican voter. before this, we were lacking compared to the democratic party. they took a great leap forward. it was a very successful program. that the >> i was on the other side of the campaign and my perspective was that the bush campaign and did have a basic strategy. my evidence would be the following. if you want to understand the campaign, you can look at where they are spending their dollars and it will tell you what their strategy is. if you look at the strategy come what you would see that they had a base market. -- strategy, you would see that they had a base market. it was a very successful strategy. the president got reelection at a difficult time. there is not a lot of job creation during his first term. they overcame that. it wasn't turned out about 2004. it will be in 2010 about who has the more energized base. the republican base will be more energized because of what has been happening with the economy, what happens with the spending program, what happens on the democratic side. it

i think the two provisions will include the roving wiretap provision and business record authority --should be renewed. it may prevented the effective use of these techniques by law enforcement the de i think congress -- enforcement. i think congress should fully support and implement it. the demonstration should look at existing laws to determine whether more aggressive use would be appropriate against those providing a logical support to loan will terrorists in violent extremists. >> is easily. if you can come to a -- excuse me. if you can please come to a close. the number of committee members here. we want to get into the questions. but let me conclude with a couple of the key questions that i think not only build on the questions that have been raised, the point to forward-looking domitian's. -- informations. it affected the ability to see the collective body of the information about h informationasan. are there -- about a major hasan. should they be reviewed? are there common warning signs in the fort hood tried key that can be used to prevent future attacks? are there realistic

in this regard i think the two provisions set to sunset this year to include the roving wiretap provisionsshould be renewed. importantly the provision from the intelligence reform and terrorism protection act commonly referred to as the lone wolf provision should also be renewed. these i think should be renewed without unnecessary or burdensome requirements. >> let me conclude with a couple key questions that i think not only build on the questions that have been raised but also point to some forward looking dimensions. obviously, the key and core question is whether or not there are any restrictions in terms of information sharing both horizontally and vertically that affected both the ability to see the collective body of information about the suspect. are there existing ties with radical idea logs abroad that should be reviewed again for the threat imposed. are there common warning signs in the fort hood case and the camp pennsylvania attack that can be used to prevent such future attacks. are there realistic expectations about preventing lone wolf attacks? and in that regard are there