back to rove and that's where the whole thing really gets ugly. rove is trying to pretend those days are over, he's still taking shots at perry from the cheap seats. >> he moved heaven and earth to get rick perry elected as his running mate. >> i know from the perspective of the former president, he has a cordial, personal strong friendship of nearly two decades of the governor, i think that's true for the governor too. why he falls into this pattern of sounding like he's dismissive is not smart. >> rove really has become the republican money train and king maker. perry might not need him. he's that strong. the latest poll shows perry with a commanding double-digit lead over mitt romney and michele bachmann. i know he's off the rails, but the republican party is full of wacky talkers. republicans know president obama is not in the best shape with his base right now, so they're going as far right as they possibly can. they think president obama is weak. he doesn't stand up to the republicans. so republicans are out there saying, well, heck, let's g

so i think karl rove is right here. the time frame is narrowing for her to actually make an entrance. but he's also right in the sense that this type of speculation is what she thrives on. she sells books off this stuff. she gets continued access to any meat pie she wants off this stuff. for her to play the victim card here, which is something she has done frequently in the past, is ironic. but with regards to the calendar, you know, we are actually running into some sort of time period here, an actual election in iowa, will happen either in late december or potentially late january or early february. so it's time to start campaigning. >> mia, this bad blood between rove and palin, is this sort of just a stand-in for the rift in the republican party between the tea party and the old establishment republicans? >> in some ways, it is. and you'll see that i think play out a lot with perry and romney. you have seen it already, when he talks about private sector experience, and he says, romney has had this private sector exp

for many years karl rove was a sacred holy man in the republican... >> really?ring the bush administration... >> not my holy man. what are you talking about? >> jon: i thought he was considered the... they referred to him as the architect of the... >> is that really it? >> yeah, but are... why do you think he is not finding these candidates acceptable because they seem to be utilizing strategies and policies that he would approve of? >> you would think. but at the end of the day, you look at someone like rick perry, who has really come out of the gates strong. you can't control him. he has his own set of ideas, his own way of doing his thing. you cannot put him in the box and say, okay russia you going to do it this way. and we, the establishment, whoever they happen to be, approve. the same with the sarah palin. you notice, you can always... >> jon: i like how you refer to it as "the sarah palin." she's just a noun at this point. >> she is also a good friend. she's a good lady, but she's not... i don't think she's running. >> jon: so you think the issue there i

carl rove. we'll show you what rove said about perry in a minute, but first, here's what perry said at a meet and greet session with voters in cedar rapids, iowa, last night when he was asked about the federal reserve. >> oh, the federal reserve, i'll take a pass on the federal reserve right at the moment to be real honest with you. i know there's a lot of talk and what have you about them. if this guy prints more money, between now and -- i don't know what you'd do to them in iowa, but we would treat him pretty ugly down in texas. i mean, printing more money to play politics at this particular time in american history is almost treasonist in my opinion, because all it's going to be doing, all it's going to be doing. we already tried this. all it's going to be doing is devaluing the dollar in your pocket. >> all right. well, there are a lot of ways to unpack that. the first is that this is a built of ideological signaling in the farthest reaches of the right wing of the republican party, those w

are you taking advice from karl rove or exploiting him?rson when it comes to republican party politics. he was saying that for a reason. the reason is clear. he thinks this feel is move too far right to be elected. it's like one of those things if it doesn't kill you, it will make you stronger. that's the rule that applies to mitt romney. he's looking presidential, standing in the middle, getting attacked from the right. they may take him down and they'll produce probably in all likelihood a candidate who can't win in the fall, but if they don't, it will make him long strong e. back he looks more reasonable. >> if you talk about turmoil in all of the people to be the not-romney, all of this accrues to mitt's impend fit. >>> the journal yesterday described the republican field of candidates and their prospects. republican and independents are desperate to find a candidate who can appeal to appeal across the disparate private economy. if the current field isn't up to that, perhaps someone still off the field will step in and run. now would b

and the sarah palin-karl rove smackdown goes another round. rove says palin has an enormous thick skin. gets upset if you speculate about her and if you don't. finally, both sides now. mitt romney weighs in on both sides of two more issue, that's in the "sideshow." we start with the latest on hurricane irene. for that we go to the weather channel. >> and good afternoon, ron. it is very difficult day here. watching hurricane as long time, and this is a very bad one. a slight glimmer of barely a little bit of good news this afternoon is now the hurricane center is thinking that this storm may not intensify quite at strong as they were thinking, but the forecast of that is difficult. in any case it looks like a direct hit on the east coast of the u.s. from north carolina all the way up into new england. look at the satellite picture. i'll locate it for you. there you see it. just now about to clear great abaco in the northern bahamas pap very large hurricane and forecasting at even larger, a move to the north. what we're looking at here, the vari

karl rove warned yesterday staying right may not win the general election.e he was on fox. >> you don't want these candidates moving so right in the republican primary that it becomes impossible for them to win the general election, because it will become a self-defeating message in the primary. people want to win. he don't want somebody who goes so far to the extremes of either party that they lack a chance to carry a victory off in november. >> and later last night, rove pushed the idea to chris christie and paul ryan are reconsidering running for president. not sure if that's true. seems the republican establishment, the bush crowd, is looking outside the field. can they convince a grown-up, if you will, to run? not much success with others. let's bring in steve mcmahon. democratic strategist, of course, and republican strategist todd harris. you know these people. i get the sense when rick perry came in this weekend, it's sort of, the cake was baked. these other four people we kept talking about, haley, christie, they're not being asked to come in. it's

rove? you can tell me. is it me? >> look, american companies have the right to partner with whomever they want. i'm worried about two things on this. we know the practice of chinese companies is to require as a price of doing business with them, of being their partner. that you surrender, that you turn over valuable technology. that you, in essence, help their economy along by giving them your intellectual property rights. second of all, g.e. is talking about partnering with a company that does a lot of work with the chinese military. so, g.e.'s sophisticated avionics is going to be put into the hands of a company in essence supplies the chinese military including air force and navy with vital aviation equipment. >> bill: even beyond that jeffrey immelt, the ceo is in charge of the president's council on jobs and competitiveness. this takes jobs overseas to china. and it makes china more competitive against boeing. >> yeah, yeah. >> bill: wait. >> i got it are you surprised that this administration is so tone deaf on

the supreme court and their citizens united ruling which has given billionaires and folks like karl rove who can tap into them and channel their money fast political power completely unaccountable and totally nontransparent totally opaque we have to do something about this and step one is waking up the american people. still become a major recall election is going down tomorrow in the union busted state of wisconsin can democrats win back control of the state senate restore democracy my next guest will help me answer that question right after this break. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through a bit through who can you trust no one who is in view with of global machinery see where we. having state controlled capitalism is called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more. judgment day for was causing governor scott walker's agenda is fast approaching in just twenty four hours polls will close in the badger state where six republican state senators are fighting for their political lives and recall elections is th

i recently extended the olive branch to karl rove. in order to make barack obama one term president we have got to unite. is he continuing to bash the tea party. i just don't get it. all i can think that maybe he does think that compromising is the only way republicans can win. but i say let me put forth his point of view. what i get from karl rove because is he on the program every week. he believes there are some people competitive against the machine like barack obama's and some people who just don't have the experience. it's about experience rove and other establishment republicans think it's personal. go. >> that's why i wrote the book. people could understand i was qualified and they could no who i am. karl rove continued to put out misinformation about me and my background even though we gave him the information. the other thing about it is that i was ahead in the polls before the republican infighting. i was leading against the democratic opponent before my own party turned on me and cnn exit polling shows that was sell wouldn

the fs-start team has eight members and they rove the single adult shelters with a liaison being funded by the city in each one of the shelters and if you are involved in the case management and the shelter moves and the continuity of the case management follows you. it doesn't just drop off the page because you're not at delores street anymore because the team rolls all of our eight shelters that we have in the system. >> are you doing to address each of the recommendations? >> yes. >> if you don't mind, i will continue public comment and i didn't realize you were here today. and just stay put and have -- we'll close public comment after that. >> all right. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. and i'm kathy and part of the sanctuary shelter and what i want to do is not just -- what i want to do is put in context some of the complaints to give a visual and there were for the period of january to december 23 complaints at next door. what i found when we did research is five of those complaints and actually we counted 21 and not 23 and five were from the one person and went to se

trumon. >> bret: thank you karl rove rove and bill burton for being here. up next. we'll talk to rick -- rick santorum. we'll be right back. what if we turned trash into surfboards? whatever your what if is, the new sprint biz 360 has custom solutions to make it happen, including mobile payment processing, instant hot spots, and powerful devices like the motorola photon 4g. so let's all keep asking the big what ifs. sprint business specialists can help you find the answers. sprint. america's favorite 4g network. trouble hearing on the phone? visit sprintrelay.com. can help you find the answers. >> bret: joinning us now as we continue or 2012 series of introduce is presidential candidate is former pennsylvania senator rick santorum. welcome back to fox news sunday. >> guest: thank you. >> bret: say to the president in office right now what specific things to create jobs and get it through the divided congress right now? >> guest: you make the assumption that rick santorum makes the presidency we would probably control the senate. i feel good that 23 of the democrats

i was watching that karl rove interview. it seemed to be that he was pretty preteshed over the fact that perry wanted to distance himself from george w. bush because the comparisons are coming pretty quickly on the campaign trail. what's going on here. >> right it was governor perry's answer, laura, to our question posed by our own carl cameron this week in des moines that riled loyalists. asked about these similarities between himself and the last texas governor with presidential ambitions and governor perry said in essence i'm paraphrasing that we're not all carbon copies down in texas. one way easily distinguish between us he went to yale and i went to texas a&m. country now as a whole being exposed to rick perry on the national stage first time is catching on to what people in texas have known for some time. this is the somewhat tangled relationship between the two men, between governor perry and the whole bush family and bush machine if you is equal parts tension and cooperation. dates back to first run alongside each o

so you're saying that bush, roveç -- >> reverend, please don't -- oh, please. on, this is a revelation to you, all right? >> i'm asking you the question. >> you know, michael, you can do the decent thing and say what you think. this is what the political season is going to be like. there's nothing enlightening about any of this conversation. >> i think it's very enlightning. >> and just sit back and wanted to hear. >> think it's enlightning that would question the president's patriotism, question his military record. >> please, come on, you didn't question george bush's patriotism and his military record? dib cheney's and everybody else's? stop with the disingenuous nonsense. this is so silly. by reaffirming what the -- >> >> he started by saying we have different visions. michael, why can't you say the decent thing? >> what is the decent thing? >> i know you think it. >> what? >> that these attacks are ugly and inappropriate. >> let's just get it all out on the street now, so we can get past this craziness and sit down and sigh what these gentlemen want to do

it's the good the bad of the very very particular phobic lee ugly good karl rove. that really. really karl rove said something good it doesn't mean he is good he just said something good and that's worth noting suppose in an interview on fox so-called news rove went after the idea that america is a christian nation. we're based on the judeo christian ethic we derive a lot from it but what if you say we're christian nation what about the what about the jews what about the muslims what about the nonbelievers i mean one of the great things about our country is the first amendment guarantees you the right to believe or not to believe as you choose. reasonable coming from bush's brain karl rove sounds reasonable you know for a fact that the days republican party is totally whacked out the bad. republic middle school back in two thousand and nine a seventh grade special needs student at the school in this is in springfield missouri reported that she was raped by another student at school didn't report the incident to the authorities and instead accuse the girl of lying and convinced

because he kept saying he was going to get rid of karl rove style politics., this is exactly what they are going to do. it is the only way they can win. i hate to say it, conceivably, if we have a weak candidate with a weak response to this kind of thing, they could conceivably win. >> sean: but it reinforces everything that i saw and some of us conservatives saw looking into his background before the election. he's a rigid ideologue, can turn on a dime. i'll give you an example of the tone-deafness. the president is still planning his weeklong vacation in martha's vineyard. his wife took a secret vacation to oregon. the rest of us struggling to make ends meet. he doesn't seem to have a plan to get us out of this, except more of the same. more qe3. it seems like he doesn't get it. >> he didn't. he's run out of ideas, because the liberal ideas he has pursued over the last 2 1/2 years haven't worked. you are right, unlike clinton he can't say something didn't work and i need to be more pragmatic and move to the center and do something different. this -- that sp

between carl rove and rick perry. >> that's correct. carl rove is not going to be opening any doors for rick perry in terms of fundraisers. that tension exists, so what rick perry is going to have to do is go around carl rove in the effort. one thing we have to find out, we're going to look at his actually campaign reports in the months ahead, does he have a number of bundlers? big money contributors who were with bush, that will be evidence perry has made there. more significantly, i think that what's going to happen is, because of this relationship, the strain between the perry and the bush forces is that perry will send the word to starve carl rove's superpacs, the cross roads gps and american cross roads act and give big money, unlimited donations, to those superpacs that are going to be aligned and supportive of rick perry. if that happens, then carl rove, who for years has dominated rick perry and his allies in texas now will find himself on the short end of a very long stick. >> wayne slater, senior political writer from the "dal

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what's larger, the brain of karl rove or the brain of rick perry? put my money on karl rove, but i think people dismiss rick perry at their peril. this man is possibly the most instinct politician from lbj. he's a horrible governor, make no mistake. but his instincts are good. he ran to the tea party early when a lot of other politicians were being cautious. and that embracing the tea party is what helped him defeat kay bailey hutchison here in texas in spite of the fact that we're pretty much a train wreck down here. >> he looks like a clown in these picture. they could not be very representative. but he dresses very fancy. there's something about the way he puts himself together that doesn't look authentic. he looks like, i don't know, a wax figure pretending to be a governor. there's something that doesn't quite add up to me. maybe this texas bs and boots and tuxedo thing they do down there. why does it work? outside of texas -- let me put it this way, it doesn't travel very well. but why does it work down there? >> well, i think that he got re-e

rove ran his campaign.s guy who is really in service to himself. but to get there, he knows who is buttering his biscuits. i assure you that. that is the money interest. you can see ohis big con trib aughtors here. it is koch brothers, exxon, and that's who it is. >> we will certainly bring you both back to talk about this as we deal with more rick perry. thank you both. joe biden is in china. but he missed this one. a brawl breaks out when the georgetown team is in china. but it wasn't the only scuffle that broke out there today. stay with us. [ man ] they said i couldn't win a fight. but i did. they said i couldn't fight above my weight class. but i did. they said i couldn't get elected to congress. but i did. now i'm trying to make it in music. ♪ sometimes when we touch ha ha! millions of hits! [ male announcer ] the new hp touchpad starting at $399.99. ♪ it's schwab at your fingertips wherever, whenever you want. one log in lets you monitor all of your balances and transfer between accounts, so your mon

rove and weigh in on whether i hey can i play with the toys ? sure, but let get a little information first. for toys, say two. toys ! the system can't process your response at this time. what ? please call back between 8 and 5 central standard time. he's in control. goodbye. even kids know it's wrong to give someone the run around. at ally bank you never have to deal with an endless automated system. you can talk to a real person 24/7. it's just the right thing to do. >> in the impact statement tonight, rick perry has been the big story in republican politics this week. just a few days ago, he jumped to a double digit lead against mitt romney in a rasmussen poll but some people think he's put his foot in his mouth a couple of times and may not be the strongest candidate to go up against president obama. with us now, the architect of president bush's two winning campaigns, karl rove. karl, great to see you in person. >> thanks for having me. >> nice to have you here, the once sleepy republican presidential race just got a lot more lively. let me

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with all due respect, it's karl rove, well known conservative republican writers. we're talking about republicans including wall street republicans and politicals. i gived governor mcdonald the fan and a friend of governor perry's who's his successor at the head of the republican governors association. >> that's the beauty of a primary debate. >> governor mcdonald said he's not a partisan in this, he said he would not have used those words. in fact, he suggested that he would say that president obama is a patriot and a great american story. why challenge the president's patriot simple? >> that's great. they have an opinion some people would use those words and others wouldn't. the fact of the matter is i think it's a good thing in america that we have a rigorous debate in this country. we understand that our economy's in a ditch. we have a president that's not engaged. i think that we have a lot of passion not only on the republican side of the aisle, but for people who are independents and people who love america that we need to get serious about our debt and defi