given what darrell i suggested in retrospect shouldn't she have arrested rove i think you hit it on the head we've given him so many passes course now understand at this point you had you had george bush it also gave rove of passed by it by entering his executive order which really protected cowrote ultimately bush would have come to his aid but you're right the democrats should have jumped in they should have done what they failed to do on the iran contra same thing same thing iran contra they had everybody dead to rights they had senior bush they had rumsfeld they had everybody but they didn't pull the trigger this is a great example you gave a great example of that problem here do you think mike the republican the democrats are look have learned from this experience. not really i think it's i think it's just a part of the democratic party that is let's let's all sing kumbaya all let's all get around but they don't understand you can't do that you just can't do that with a sociopath and some of the people running that party right now the republican party can be described as no oth

rove.ou should just know this is happenic because there is something weird going on. in this fight about all of the dark money being spent against obama this year. karl rove has a long history in alabama politics. there was a scandal about an operative saying karl rove when he was working in the bush white house sent her to get dirt on this democratic governor in alabama, catch him cheating on his wife or something. but this is something that happened more than ten years ago. this has absolutely nothing to do with this year's campaign or secret money or the fec or any of these things. karl rove's response to the obama campaign asking them to disclose their donors, his response was essentially the obama campaign, their lawyer was a lawyer for this woman in alabama 11 years ago when she went on "60 minutes." completely bizarre. one of the strangest and bluntest and most non seq.witter diversionary tactives i have seen. the only reason i think it might be important is because i think karl rove

with that said let's play karl rove's response to all of this.e was on fox yesterday or wednesday night. >> we have some of the best lawyers in the country both on the tax side and on the political side. the political election law to make certain we never get close to the line that will push us into the gps political grip as opposed to a social welfare organization. >> does that sound like an adequate explanation that everything will stay on the up and up while we're there with closed doors and no reporters and recording devices and so on? >> i don't doubt that karl rove's crossroads gps group has the best lawyers in the business but as you said part of a tax-exempt nonprofit like crossroads gps which has spent tens of millions of dollars in this election cycle is that we don't know who their donors are. we don't know how they work internally. and, really, you're going on karl rove's word here and you can take that for what it is. you know, in terms of the complaint that bob bower the obama attorney has made it is unlikely the fec will act on thi

i have to tell you, i was literally stunned listening to karl rove speak.his is the guy who had to go in time after time after time to stop himself getting indicted. in the valerie plame case was about attempting to go after the wife, a secret operative wife who worked for the cia of an ambassador sent to africa to find out if really iraq was trying to acquire nuclear material from niger. this was about covering up the biggest intelligence blunder or sham that we've had in modern history. the idea we went to war based on the idea that iraq was getting nuclear weapons and leaking a cia operative's name. this is unreal he col even speak the word leak. >> ken, when are we going to start seeing ads about this leak story from karl rove's super pac? didn't he just unleash another major buy in nine states? >> you know, i actually would not be surprised to see ads either from super pacs or outside groups associated with rove or others. its democrats should sit up and take notice anytime karl rove says anything that suggests a strategy or attack in the presidential

but karl rove is in a league of his own with this. they might name the hall of name after him, in fact. in the bush white house he had a habit of baring bad news by releasing it late on friday afternoon, and now he has criticized the president for releasing bad news on friday afternoons. he has accused the obama team of being in a permanent campaign. he is now accusing the president of trying to win by relying on an endless barrage of ads. he out did himself this week on the sean hannity show and predicted what the president and his allies would do to win or try to do to win. >> they will do it by trying to take their wallet and buying it. >> in fairness to mr. rove, if he were making this argument four years ago, he may be able to present it with a straight face. in that time, the president was one of the most prolific fund-raiser that anyone has seen. he benefitted from a huge financial advantage. four years later, however, rove's argument is unbelievable. and under the circumstances more than a little ironic. politico reported that

why is karl rove so protective of his donors? >> you're always picking on karl rove. he's trying to start a nice welfare program. >> i just want to know who is giving to his welfare program. that's all. >> you can't blame the guy for trying. listen, i think the whole system is messed up. we have to tear this all apart and start over. at first, it was the super pacs, and now this making it a social program, a way around the super pacs. think we should let everyone give any amount they want to any candidate as long as there's full disclosure. make it more direct. >> karen, what do you think? >> nice try, mark. >> i'm serious about that. just be open and honest. >> i agree on the disclosure problem. but here is what is going on in this specific case. they're a social welfare program. you're being unfair to millionaires and billionaires whose profits they're trying to protect. we saw last week some of the major donors say that they were intentionally going to use these loopholes and these shadow groups to give, and one of them, and i quote, said because it will be more un

karl rove went broke? really?you believe that, then i suppose you'll also believe valerie plame wasn't a covert agent when her name was leaked back in 2003, a lie repeatedly on fox news. in the name all of fair and balanced it should be noted that rove did describe himself as quote of a mixed mind on whether a special prosecutor should investigate in this case. so what happened to the cut-throat operative who orchestrated one of most dishonest and divisive campaigns in modern political history? well, make no mistake, while offering that vaguely moderate pretense on air his super pac american crossroads is spending millions to defeat the president and democrats right across the country. unfortunately while fox news will repeatedly promote rove's book "courage and consequence "s it doesn't have the courage to disclose rove's real reason, they continue to imply that rove is another political commentator when in fact he's driving a super tanker of cash directly against the president. but don't be worried because on on

we will provide rove. i have have a private hearingd swear him in so that if he doesn't tell the truth he can be prosecuted for doing so and he will tell you everything that you want to know about his involvement or noninvolvement in the u.s. attorney situation but that way we protect the form of the president's privilege while giving you the substance of what you want which is complete unfettered access to rove. that is probably why the house never took it up because the white house made this offer and i suspect some in the house democratic leadership said we are not going to look good if they offered us this. they finally took the bush white house up on the offer in march of 2009 and had we spend two days testifying in front of the hapless member of the judiciary committee. the transcript is available publicly. he wasn't particularly well prepared nor focused. i do think this, i think the president of the united states has made a mistake. first of all, he said explici explicitly that fast and furious had

and the very very ugly karl rove of his g.o.p. is crossroads g.p.s. american crossroads super pacs rove has already done enough to help weaken american democracy but now he's just flat out making a mockery of rove will be attending and speaking to mitt romney retreat this weekend. high end donors which is reportedly an opportunity to strategize and fraternize among the new backers robes super pacs plan to spend plan to spend upwards of three hundred million dollars to help romney beat president obama in november but by law they can't associate or coordinate with mitt romney or his official campaign so it seems like by attending the event rove is breaking the law but of course he doesn't care this is the guy who dared nancy pelosi to arrest him for years who helped commit treason by outing a cia officer and who participated in lyon our nation into two bloody expensive and unnecessary wars just for political gain and now he's making a mockery of the few laws left to protect our electoral system. that it's very clear. you may remember last week when mich

. >> do you remember in the bush administration when harriet miers, white house koucounsel a karl rove were going to be held in contempt. that was the firing of the nine assistant u.s. attorneys. there were political firings. but, in fact, what happened, it got pushed and pushed, but then karl rove testifies in private and everything goes away.

bob bauer has karl rove like this, and karl rove has stepped right into it.l rove has done, suggesting that somebody was, you know, being vin dictive because of something that they did when in fact the person didn't do it t karl rove has to explain himself. he can get out of this by issuing a public retraction a public apology. what do you make of this peter? peter: i don't know if he is in any trouble. he is just dumb. if they have him on to be, you know, a pundit or someone who knows what he is talking about he has clearly shown he is just wrong. so he either wildly screwed up. right? or he is making something up to try and help his case. i mean either way, he looks like a dope. david: he looks stoeshlths stupid. you know, yeahtotally stupid. you know, yeah he could make sure bob bauer is the bob bauer he thinks. he didn't check about that. he has been all over fox news claiming because president obama asserted executive privilege that this means the president is in the middle of this or involved in some fashion. >> that's what he is suggesting. knowing tha

rove was behind it here is what carl rove said about that. >> it's nice to know the speaker pelosi wanted to have me arrested. it's nice to know that she thinks she had the power to. you know, she sounds a little bit like inspector clueso and mad queen but speaker pelosi was dead wrong in her assertion. >> bill: up top, i don't know whether you were paying attention because you know your attention span. but we mocked nancy pelosi for saying hey, this isn't about attorney general holder and suppressing documents and fast and furious. this is about voter suppression. so now she says that she could have had rove arrested and you say? >> well, here's the thing. to pelosi truth is like a face lift that you just keep stretching. >> bill: oh. >> yes, telling point. here is the thing, there is no way she could have arrested him because there was never a vote for contempt. that's complete bologna. >> bill: he didn't hold a government position, carl rove he was an appointee. couldn't have been any contempt. >> that's the point. it's all garbage. she just doesn't have a screw loose she has an entire

rove super pac tweeted this.w does the commerce secretary have three car crashes in five minutes and alcohol not be involved? then it's #skills. it turns out john bryson may have had a serious seizure. american crossroads tweeted a correction. but shouldn't rove apologize for this kind of a comment about secretary bryson? >> well, don't hold your breath, do you know what i mean? karl rove is not the one to apologize. this super pac issue is serious. when you're talking about karl rove and mitt romney, they have so much experience. mitt romney from bain capital and karl rove with how to float the rules. having a blind trust and moving your money offshore is like practice for what you need to exploit citizens united which why at the end of the day we have a call for the revisitation and overturning of citizens united as soon as possible. it is destroying american politics and we are watching it unfold right now. >> ana marie cox and karen finney and dr. james peterson, brilliant even over those two segments. thank

could the protests karl rove? don't ask them who karl rove is. >> who is karl rove? why are we marching against him? >> basically -- oh, god! >> think newt gingrich and work your way backwards. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> ♪ dynamite >> thank you, jimmy j.j. walker who is going to be on this hour. i think that's the first time we've done a multiple head shot. >> i'm getting the sense it's the last. >> no, i liked it. i am going to do the cold open from behind the sofa every morning now. >> right. hopefully. above the sofa. >> all right, meanwhile, let's get to your headlines. we have a lot of news to get to this morning because we're getting some incredible new images out of colorado. you can see entire neighborhoods there literally burning to the ground at six different wildfires spread throughout the state. the governor describing this as like looking at a military invasion. the fires are being fuelled by record high temperatures and 65-mile-per-hour winds. right now, at least 3200 people are being forced out of their homes in the colorado springs area. tha

is there coordination there. >> karl rove is the coordinate or running things. running the conference calls if you ask me. >> ken, what were you going to jump in and say. >> there is coordination. we have written about this before. there are these meetings that occur, so far they are occurring once a month. the weaver terrace group meeting, so named for the residential street in northwest washington in which karl rove used to live where he had the first of these in his living room. they involve a number of representatives from a number of these big groups super p.a.c.s, 5 open 1 c 4 non-profit organizations which don't disclose donors. they do the odds whichrations, which groups they are going to play in, how much they are going to play. there is coordination. however, what we detected which was interesting was a little bit of dishe knew among the ranks where karl rove in particular seemed to be disparaging the super p.a.c. supporting mitt romney to which sheldon adelson, we understand is going to contribute as much as $10 million suggesting the money would be b

one of the ways rove wanted to do that was by including hispanic voters. a very large group in the population and growing. similarly mckinley tried to appeal to european immigrants at the time, which was a very large expanding group in the population. he was able to in 1896 and 1900 to win over the german voters. most became republicans for various reasons, and so rove saw not just mckinley but mark hanna, the presaryo of mckinley's career and presidential campaigns producing this new republican majority. it didn't happen. george w. bush was not as successful a president as william mckinley. >> we're coming to you from lincoln, nebraska, where bryan served two terms in the house of representatives and ran for the presidency on three separate occasions beginning at 1896 at the age of 36. frank joins us from salem, illinois, the birthplace of william jennings bryan. >> the birthplace is open to the public on -- if you call it that. my question is, how much influence did w.j. have in getting his brother nominated in 1924 to be the vice presidential candidate?

this is karl rove cross rotes super pac raising more money than anyone on the democratic side.ublicans have the leg up. super pacs are the best things that happened to them because the billionaires want to give to them. it's an investment on what they'll get in return. democratic donors on the other side are just not that motivated for a number of reasons to pour in this unlimited money. republicans love the new rules to the game. >> right, paul, let me ask you what is the difference between this retreat and say, president obama attending a fundraiser hosted by sara jessica parker? >> i think it depends on the content of the retreat. i think that they're both equally sucking up to rich people to try to get contributions. you know, obama has increased his victory committee to be able to take the same amount of money that romney has $708,000. the question is are they talking policy sitting down with policy advisers? is this a tradeoff for you get money and then you talk to the people who might wind up in my administration. that's a little bit different than sitting down with holl

>> steve: in other words, at the anti-karl rove rally, it's like, karl rove is bad!hington, it's a weekend. how could you not know who you're protesting? >> alisyn: how could they get them to turn out. >> steve: that's karl rove right there. >> brian: he's all in the eye of the storm. >> steve: yeah. interesting video from the blaze. >> brian: next, only on this show unless somebody else has format exactly like ours. who is the leak? who is the leaker? republicans ramping up the pressure on the attorney general to get to the bottom of it. will it work? our panel weighs in. look at them. >> alisyn: can you imagine working with your ex? denise richards is going to. she's co-starring with charlie sheen when she joins us. >> brian: and try it disspell a rumor. >> steve: big news or not. you be the judge ♪ i'm making my money do more. ♪ i'm consolidating my assets. i'm not paying hidden fees or high commissions. i'm making the most of my money. and seven-dollar trades are just the start. i'm with scottrade. i'm with scottrade. i'm with scottrade. and i'm loving every minu

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so why did his camp let rove attend leaving the door open to this controversy? >> i congratulate you on the research because that's the quote he made during the primary. now he wants everybody in the fold and when it cops to money and when it comes -- comes to money and when it comes to unified party support, i guess they feel they can look the other way. >> romney has a long short list of vp candidates. those people are also in attendance, but there was someone noticeably absent. why don't you tell us who wasn't there and what this might signify. >> yes. it was marco rubio who they've written two books about him. he's written his own book. he's on everybody's short list. it's very strange because romney at first said he's not being vetted and then he went out of his way to say he is being vetted, but he did not appear at this con fab which makes things even more confusing and perplexing when it comes to rubio. >> let me point out this, though, another person not there was virginia governor bob mcdonnell. >> no. he was there. >> but he has said very publicly he'

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