and i said,rowth quick, tell me, where our interest rates? would not say short-term interest rates are up 1.25%. you would say they were substantially higher. and is a lot of reasons why interest rates of been low for a long time and a lot of it has to do with military policy which i don't knock anybody four. balance, having to work that back to normalcy. normal isink the new radically different from the old normal. and i think policy has affected it. while we are trying to get away from interest rates that are so low relative to the growth in the economy, we are trying to undo those methods to bring rates high. don't forget qe. and on top of it, national policy just added to the deficit. so you saw the tax revenues going down, spinning as a result of the new budget deal is going to go up. maybe even more if there is a bill for the infrastructure. and that has to be funded. so before any of that, you say that deficit is going to be more bonds that have to be issued. now there will be even more bonds that have to be issued. as the fed try to u