next it's a booktv's monthly "in depth" program with the story and activist roxanne dunbar-ortiz. her books include "outlaw woman" and a recently published "not a nation of immigrants." >> host: roxanne dunbar-ortiz, i want to start our conversation today with a quote from your most recent book "not a nation of immigrants." in the book youup write that the claim that the united states is a nation of immigrants is the benevolent version of u.s. nationalism. what do you mean by that? >> guest: well, in the past before that terminology, a nation of immigrants, arose there was a degradation really of immigrants, very hard processing of acceptance that still exist with chinese. the first immigration law was an exclusion of chinese. it's been mainly about exclusion.hi but this term, and nation of immigrants, is actually very recent. i was surprised actually to find that it dates to 1958 and it was implemented by john f. kennedy when he was senator. and it seemed to me that his purpose was in planning to run for president that he had a difficult past because he was a child of immigrants,

host the we are back live with roxanne dunbar-ortiz whose recent book is "outlaw woman". that's here from barbara in massachusetts. barbara please go ahead. >> caller: hi theater and high dr. dunbar-ortiz. the history of your centric clooney was a man genocide and dr. ortiz book is sitting in my lap here the indigenous people of the united states taken out of where -- i really want to promote exterminate all the brutes as i know dr. ortiz will tell us more about it. if you go to amazon.com they are selling all threee of the books that are historical backstops for this extraordinary document which is four hoursis in a premiered april 7 and 8th on hbo and you are listening to thf founder of the facebook page the french around tech and i hope everyone after watching the documentary will come and join the conversation there which is just taking off. police tell us how you got involved with ralph pac apakan have we reached out to you and finally it does want to say this is a documentary of the decade, not the documentary of 2021. it really is here to revolutionize the first his

. >> roxanne dunbar ortiz i want to start with our conversation today with a quote from your most recent book not an issue to be regrouped, in the book you write the claim that the united states is a nation of immigrants and aversion of u.s. nationals. what do you mean by that. >> in the past, before the terminology, a nation of immigrants arose, there was a degradation of immigrants, very hard processing, of acceptance, that still exist with chinese, the first immigration law was an exclusion of chinese, it's been mainly about exclusion the term is very recent, i was surprised actually to find why it dates to 1958 and in minted by john f. kennedy when he was senator, is seem to be whose purpose was planning to run for president and he had a difficult past because he was a child of immigrant irish and catholic and every president up until that time of his presidency had bid engel or scott irish and protestant. so i think what he emphasizes in the little book that he published called the nation of immigrants, he emphasizes the great qualities about the irish in particular. it is mainly ab

host: we are back live with roxanne dunbar ortiz. to your phone calls. let's hear from barbara from massachusetts. please go ahead. >>caller: hello peter. hello doctor dunbar ortiz. i come from this phone call from the documentary on hbo exterminate all the brutes about the history of your eccentric colonialism and genocide. doctor ortiz book is sitting in my lap of the indigenous people taken out of the library on martha's vineyard. were the descendents go to school with myw grandchildren. so if you go to amazon.com they are selling all three of the books of the historical backstop for this extraordinary documentary you are listening to the founder so i hope everyone after watching the documentary will enjoy that conversation which is taking off. please tell us how you got involved and finally this is a documentary of a decade not 2021. t and really is here to revolutionize the historical record. host: thank you. what is exterminate all the brutes? >> . >> and as described it is a paradigm shift of anything that's ever been on telev

. >> our guest will be roxanne dunbar ortiz, she discusses native american culture in history, women's liberation movement, founding of the united states and more. >> after that caroll swain. vice chair of president trump's 1776 commission, she talks about critical race theory, 1619 project, immigration and more. >> all that starts friday 8 p.m. eastern on c-span 2, as access your books on line as well. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> at 10, on afterward, dr. paul opet head of children's infectious disease division talks about his book, you bet your life. he is interviewed by dr. gurley at johns hopkins. watch book tv every sunday on c-span 2. or watch on-line. up next on book tv: >> first thing i want to ask, how do you approach your role as a writer in particular a political writer? >> first thing, a political writer, politics is not a big part of most people's lives, it should not be a big part of life of

two hours later our guest is roxanne dunbar ortiz.he discusses native american culture and history, the women's liberation movement, founding of the united states and more and her books include outlaw woman and indigenous people of the united states and the 1776 commission, she talks about critical race theory, the 1619 project, immigration, and more. and her books include, be the women, the 1776 report, and the recently published black eye for america. that starts tonight at 8 eastern on c-span2 and also access our programs on-line at book tv.org or follow along on c-span now our new video app. >> c-span offers a variety of podcasts that have something for every listener. weak days, washington today gives you the latest from the nation's capital and every week, book note plus has indepth interviews with writers about their latest works. ... next it's a booktv's monthly "in depth" program with the story and activist roxanne dunbar-ortiz. her books include "outlaw woman" and a recently published "not a nation of

two hours later our guest is roxanne dunbar ortiz.she discusses native american culture ask history, the women's liberation movement, the founding of the united states and more. her books include an indigenous people's history of the united states and not a nation of immigrants. and after that, a conversation with carol swain who served as vice chair of president trump's 1776 commission. she talks about critical race theory, the 1619 project, immigration and more. her books include be the people, the 1776 report and the recently published black eye for america. if that starts tonight at 8 eastern on c-span2, and you can also access our programs online at booktv.org or follow along on c-span now, our new video app. >> during a recent virtual event hosted by magic city books in tulsa, oklahoma, atlantic magazine staff the writer adam serwer reflected on the past and future of what he calls trump's america. >> what i'm talking about really goes back to the founding of the country. you know, you have a country when you say all are created

. >> roxanne dunbar ortiz, i want to start our conversation today with a quote from your most recent a nation of immigrants.n you writeup that claim the unitd states is a nation of immigrants is the benevolent version of u.s. nationals. what you mean by that? >> in the

. >> roxanne dunbar ortiz i want to start with our conversation today with a quote from your most recent book not an issue to be regrouped, in the book you write the cla