one of her closest friends and confidantes, roy cohn. i know the notorious audience him well. hey, the notorious mccarthy era lawyer who became donald trump's and confidant and adviser as well. it was actually one one of the one more example of how put work above everything she said the great love of her life was senator edward brooke of massachusetts and they had a long affair kept, very private. he was the senator from massachusetts. he was married and he was a black man. and he offered to leave his wife to marry barbara and roy cohn, among others, warned her that if they did this, it would cost her her career because of the controversy. and she decided to give up the of her life and keep her career phenomenal if she were alive today. is there something you would love to ask her? uh, you know, there's a question that ask. i interviewed about 150 people for this book, and of those who knew barbara, i asked this question at the end of the interviews i did. i said, was she happy? and almost none of them said yes. they said she was proud. she was you know, she loved what did, bu

new york she called roy cohn. he made it disappear, i think not in a legalt in some way.ned when when she was thinking aut edward brooke, she took advice, roy cohn, on whether to you know, whether to continue that relationship so he was a really trusted figure in her life even at his most notorious is at the end you know he was facing disbarment proceed things in new york she one of the few people d testified to his good character on his behalf. and you know, who else did rudy giuliani and donald trump. that's a trifecta. do we have for more questions? we have about two more minutes. okay. go ahead. hi, sue. hi, joe. hey. so if barbara walters were was here, i think she'd beem smiling very wildly seeing both of you and the. and the people that you. let's ask each of you, one thing that you've learned from barbara for your lives or careers be fearless fearless and be forgiving, too. i think that's something i n't have to deal with everything barbara dealt, but i did deal with some sexism early on and i can remember something very offensive said to me, and my reaction was,

roy cohn i think was donald trump's lawyer and satan's lawyer. jon: he did not pay his bills. my point is, this is a continuation of a process. so the targeting aspect of it -- look, a healthy country would have viewed what donald trump did from the election date through january 6th, the way that he meticulously and relentlessly pursued all avenues to overturn a democratic election, that is what a healthy country would deal with. but a healthy country also looks at other aspects of what seemed to be fraud. if you have a home office and you put it on your taxes but you don't really have a home office, that is a problem for you, is it not? >> yes. >> jon: they say it is just a bookkeeping error of $130,000. donald trump colluded with his lawyer and a publisher of a major tabloid to buy and fairy stories -- >> not a crime. >> jon: that he would deem hurtful to his election, and then use the finances that he paid for those stories and put them down as not that. that is a crime, is it not? >> he didn't put them down -- he put them in a ledger is not a

. >> roy cohn? it was also donald trump's mentor. let's bring in cnn contributor leah wright rigueur. she's also an associate professor of history at johns hopkins university. leah mccarthy, first of all, i thought we had settled this about mccarthyism. that wade, we actually have had decided that mccarthyism some was both unsuccessful and also a shameful chapter in american history she is monica crowley now saying that he was right you know, what's really fascinating about this is that there's a long list of people that monica crowley mentioned as she's defending and championing jerome mccarthy and all of the people that she mentioned for part of the insistence that joe mccarthy was in fact a very bad person and mccarthyism was deeply bad and hurtful and harmful for the country. >> and in fact, i think one of the things that's really interesting to point out is that mccarthyism isn't just attacked by the left. certainly of course, i think the left during the 1950s and well into the 1960s, saw mccar

make of him, someone who forged his career in the '70s and '80s alongside a new york lawyer like roy cohnt is poetic. if you were a writer and you were writing this story, this is how you might have it end. the anomaly is that this is not necessarily where it ends, that it may well end in the white house. >> that was robert costa reporting. you're watching the -we're done. -what about these? looks right. nooo... nooo... quick, the quicker picker upper! bounty absorbs spills like a sponge. and is 2x more absorbent so you can use less. bounty, the quicker picker upper. i thought i was sleeping ok... but i was waking up so tired. then i tried new zzzquil sleep nasal strips. their four—point lift design opens my nose for maximum air flow. so, i breathe better. and we both sleep better. and stay married. inez, let me ask you, you're using head and shoulders, right? only when i see flakes. then i switch back to my regular shampoo. you should use it every wash, otherwise the flakes will come back. tiny troy: he's right, you know. is that tiny troy? the ingredients in head and shoulders keep the

i don't think that there is one iota he learned from roy cohn. if you hit him, he hit you back. the difference here is that joe biden doesn't have anything to do with any of these prosecutions relating to donald trump. the reason why this has never happened in history is because we've never had somebody so vino that has been so disrespectful of the rule well, the law and the constitution that wants to be present in the united states. it is we are a nation of laws, not of men. nobody is above the law in the united states of america, not even donald trump, although every day he wants to prove to us that he is and if the constitution is going to hold, if due process is going to hold, if the rule of law is going to hold, it has to take its course well, let me say this, notwithstanding the fact that donald trump is in fact a convicted felon and has more to come. >> the only thing that actually works is the people of america making a decision on election day. >> none of these cases are going to stop donald trump from becoming president. and if the people of america believe in democrac

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