now, i've been in roy emerson's spot when i got older too, and he came from the u.s.pen and he was tired, and the last guy he wanted to play was a little 17-year-old eager kid. but it was an opportunity of a lifetime for me, and to have taken advantage of that -- i walked off of there and i can still remember pancho and spencer walking up to him and go into the locker room. now when i walked into that match, i was in locker room number two. when i walked off of that match, i was in a locker next to pancho gonzalez in the main locker room the biggest thrill of my life. winning that match right there told me that if i keep working, keep going at it the right way, keep listening, and keep being disciplined, then i have an opportunity. tavis: let me fast-forward way down the road, and then we'll come back, because i'm fascinated now by your comment a moment ago that later in your career you know what it felt like to be in his shoes. so what did it feel like years later when that was happening to you at the hands of these young guys? >> well, i went from looking for somebo