jack period and roy gardner -- jack beard and roy gardner. i think it is fair to say that jack beard probably created this legal framework. umbrella agreement that describe the scope of the operations, with the four countries we were negotiating with. there were also implementing agreements, which described in more specific terms, what it is exactly that would be done. silo and so forth. the task of the interagency group was essentially to umbrella agreement with these four countries. also a series of implementing agreements. bill burns already done some of that. .e finished the negotiations he started with russia, we had not gotten very far with ukraine or kazakhstan. in march of 1993, i took over that job, , i took the job for one year. in the process of that year, thanks to a really effective team, jim turner was my department energy deputy, sitting in the front row. there wasder, back from osd. there are many others of us. gloria played the important role as the dod deputy. first year,f the the only year i was actually doing that job, we