now what she's claiming is when she was married to roy kronk he once used duct tape to restrain her. she also claims he was abusive. and she even went so far as to think that she thinks he might have had something to do with caylee anthony's murder. so that is why this woman is being deposed by the defense. >> ellie, doesn't she live out of state or out of town? >> she does, nancy. she lives outside of knoxville. >> how would she have any idea if the meter reader was involved in caylee's murder? >> well, right, nancy. and also, you know, what people are saying about this woman is, perhaps, she has an ax to grind against her ex-husband. his attorney says that, you know, just for the sake of argument -- >> wait a minute. i couldn't hear you. control room talking in my ear. did you say she had an ax to grind? were those your words? >> that's the theory, nancy, is that that may be why she's coming forward. >> i only have one question. weren't they divorced? >> exactly. they sure were. >> okay. i think that says a lot right there. unleash the lawyers. eleanor odom, renee rockwell, peter o