who was a good friend of rudy giuliani, who e-mailed him, sleep well tonight, i'm meeting with my client or my friend who is meeting with his client, meaning roy rudy giuliani and the president of the united states at the time, and what do you want me to commune indicate? for costello to act the way he did in that courthouse, going to andrew's point, really corroborating michael cohen's testimony, a lot of jurors walked away on that, what was it, monday? and instead of thinking about michael cohen and what may have come from that testimony, they likely walked away thinking about robert costello and the way he acted toward the judge. you and i saw it, this jury -- their energy feeds off the judge. if juan merchan is not into one of the witnesses or feeling they're being disrespectful or not answers succinctly, he holds them to ask. i imagine they were feeding off the same energy, rolling his eyes at the judge, staring him down. >> to the degree, harry litman, they'll by asked to make relative judgments, yeah, there was a one question on one day about one call that made me wonder if michael cohen was telling the truth, but, you know, the defense