. >> and those are relationships -- >> and roy wilkins. >> and roy wilkins. >> all of these people that he worked with, you know, not just walked with them. he worked with them to change things. and it think that we owe a great debt of gratitude to his family for giving us such a person. >> did he ever reflect on having worked with these great men and talk about -- >> oh, absolutely. you know, he was a history buff. >> mm-hmm. >> julian was a history buff. absolutely. in his speeches, if you hear -- in many of his speeches he's given, he's talked about these men and why he was so committed and dedicated to further the work. >> i want to ask you, he was also charismatic. >> oh. >> he was undeniably a good-looking guy. >> absolutely a statue. his -- he was eloquent, in a sense. >> and eloquent. >> and smart. >> and smart? absolutely. he was brilliant. look at him. a journalist. a professor. and an activist. a husband. a father. i mean, any adjective that you could find, julian bond is in it. >> and his name will go down in history books. >> absolutely, in history. no doubt about it. >> ha

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